@Naoki Yoshida-> Make Samurai a Tank class!

[shao32]

what are you talking? you cant classify old jobs how come from turn based games in to roles like that, DRK never was a "heavy DPS class" i even replayed ffiv again a few weeks ago and everyone dealt more damage that cecil, and in ffiii its a great job when you get it but when you get the next crystal become pretty useless.

DRK are traditional heavy armored fighters how sacrifice a resourse to dealt a huge hit and hey thats what the DRK do here, sacrifice a resourse, mp in this case) to use one the most powerful skills in term of potency of the game, ffxi break more DRK tradition adding scithes with them.

when ppl stop comparing the old ff game battle system with this one? jobs are not mean being dps bcs dps is not a thing in a turn based game, in any case is DPT (damage per turn) whit that are all.

[Iromi]

what are you talking? you cant classify old jobs how come from turn based games

Pretty sure Kiyashi was talking about FFXI which is a MMORPG, not turn based at all lol.

Also he is right, DRK was never a tank before until FFXIV.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Also he is right, DRK was never a tank before until FFXIV.

Allow me to redirect you to Final Fantasy Tactics. DRK was a high hp tank that recovered itself with Night Blade and took hits like a steel wall. There's precedent for DRK tank, even if you want to stick your fingers in your ears.

[Iromi]

Allow me to redirect you to Final Fantasy Tactics. DRK was a high hp tank that recovered itself with Night Blade and took hits like a steel wall. There's precedent for DRK tank, even if you want to stick your fingers in your ears.

Final Fantasy Tactics is my favorite FF of all time. DRK was not a tank in FFT...that game's battle system did not require tanks...just..what?? You could put people in the front to hope mobs go after them..but what?

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Knight_(Tactics)

"Sacrifice own HP to deal damage to others, with the nearest units suffering the most damage." Sounds like a fantastic tank, yo..sacrifice your own HP so you can tank for us please. Oh and somehow manage to stay alive lol. I'm dying haha

"Dark Knight is a job in Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions. It has abilities that focus on delivering damage to opponents using the darkness to drain their HP or MP, and also can attack sacrificing their own HP to inflict more damage. It costs 6,900 JP to master. "


I don't know..uhh, I really would not want this as my tank. Don't think we would last too long w.

he is talking in ff games in general, and no job was tank or healer or dps until FFXI comes, and if we go in to that field even if we know we cant classify the jobs in a old ff game like much you have first line figthers and second line figthers in some ff, but most are in the same file.

tank or dps its just dont change the job identity bcs the role means what are they focus in a MMO battle, DRK here have they traditional desing.

Hmm no..pretty sure the jist of his post is about SAM from FFXI lol.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I don't know..uhh, I really would not want this as my tank. Don't think we would last too long w.

In all honesty if you ever died as a dark Knight, you had a really bad loadout. >w> DRK was the only job that could avoid the majority of attacks with minimal effort, due to the fact blocks/parries negated all damage.. The only other job that could mitigate damage so well was Knight and Ninja with the proper accessory and reaction ability, but DRK was in every way a tank.

Course, it helped DRK had 200+ more Max HP than Knight did.

[Iromi]

In all honesty if you ever died as a dark Knight, you had a really bad loadout. >w> DRK was the only job that could avoid the majority of attacks with minimal effort, due to the fact blocks/parries negated all damage.. The only other job that could mitigate damage so well was Knight and Ninja with the proper accessory and reaction ability, but DRK was in every way a tank.

Course, it helped DRK had 200+ more Max HP than Knight did.

Yeah that is true, lol I remember doing that haha. But honestly though before this game did you really see DRK as a tank? Personally I didn't really, hehe they always used it to contrast Knight, which was supposed to be the guy in shining armor. I always saw it as Cecil, Leon and in FF3 and FFXI. I mean Yoshida made it work in XIV...in XIV any job can be whatever he decides. Personally I would have liked to see it as a DPS but that didn't happen ^^

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

But honestly though before this game did you really see DRK as a tank? ^^

I saw DRK as a tank, yes. They typically had higher vitality and HP than other heavily armored jobs and could frequently take several hits without really dropping while using HP smartly to deal incredible damage. Ever since I first saw them, I'd always considered them to be a high risk/high reward tank.

[shao32]

Also he is right, DRK was never a tank before until FFXIV.

he is talking in ff games in general, and no job was tank or healer or dps until FFXI comes, and if we go in to that field even if we know we cant classify the jobs in a old ff game like much you have first line figthers and second line figthers in some ff, but most are in the same file.

tank or dps its just dont change the job identity bcs the role means what are they focus in a MMO battle, DRK here have they traditional desing.