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  1. #111
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    Shippuu's Avatar
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    Shippuu Nammuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndytheRaven View Post
    lol how is this a cop-out. I am here to play SE game am not here to make it for them, what I say is merely a suggestion nothing more nothing less. I keep having to repeat myself but what ever SE chooses to do has already been done.
    It's a cop-out because instead of stepping up to the plate and actually providing valid and credible options (because you can't) you instead handwaved it as not your problem.

    Also SAM not even confirmed, I truly believe its going to be blue mage as new job anyways this is for fun or so i thought till you got all crazy serious about it all.
    SAM has more evidence to be included than BLU now at this point, especially with Yoshida's statements yesterday about BLU. So unless he was just parroting lies, BLU likely isn't going to be in 4.0, and if it is, it's going to be a non group content job, so solo job only which will simply disappoint most everyone.
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  2. #112
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    Ruruneji Seseneji
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    Odin
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    While you are completely correct in the assesment that SE is going to keep things static for as long as possible, you must realise one of WoWs keys to success: Constant change. The game felt new for years with updates and changes to the core foundation. If FFxiv wont change it will be forgotten and die out.

    Keeping everything the same is bad in the long run. As mentioned if SB doesnt shake it up, many people will leave. The game is run by casual market, and by not giving new ideas and concepts they will move on to the next game. FFXIV needs to stay fresh, but thats hard when noone wants change. The game has about 200k subs. Thats a lot for an MMORPG in this day and age.

    "Oh theres this new tank that uses heavy armor and a two handed sword in the expansion" How many times will that sell? "heavy armor and x weapon" can only work so many times before everone will get sick of it.

    I just hope you understand that i want the best for the game, and without risk, we wont come anywhere.

    As to WoW being better for me? I have personal reasons for boykotting blizzard. They mocked the european community in their 2014 documentary, and gave rise to the idea that the european forums they abandoned werent as high quality as the American ones. (European accounts cannot discuss with the american users on their forums, interact with devs and similar.)


    My train of thought has run of its rails by now. I might return someday this upcoming week. ciao

    Non-standard tank pls..
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
    While you are completely correct in the assesment that SE is going to keep things static for as long as possible, you must realise one of WoWs keys to success: Constant change. The game felt new for years with updates and changes to the core foundation. If FFxiv wont change it will be forgotten and die out.
    I'd argue that there is more to WoW's success than just constant change. However, you have to understand Blizzard had the luxory of being able to go tremendous amounts of time without delivering new content. When you're not putting out content for 18 months that gives you a bunch of time to design and devlop systems and mechanics that change things up (not all of which were ever good things).

    FFXIV just simply doesn't have that, the devs are constantly working on a schedule to deliver content on a regular basis. You simply cannot have both, either you get steady content additions every 3 months, or you get bigger shake ups but maybe 1 update every 6 months, or 1 a year. I do not think FFXIV would survive on that kind of timetable in this day and age.



    "Oh theres this new tank that uses heavy armor and a two handed sword in the expansion" How many times will that sell? "heavy armor and x weapon" can only work so many times before everone will get sick of it.
    It will work until it doesn't, and then maybe SE will do something about it.

    I just hope you understand that i want the best for the game, and without risk, we wont come anywhere.
    We both want whats best for the game, we just differ as to ideas on what that actually is. I think risks should be made, but this game cannot throw caution to the wind, especially after it already failed once.
    We will just have to agree to disagree, which is fine.
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  4. #114
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    Eul's Avatar
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Ugh I don't want more DPS role, make it healer or tanks and I'm happy
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  5. #115
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Tanking is boring. #FACT
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  6. #116
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    Then have fun in the 1h+ DF.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Tanking is boring. #FACT
    I find it sad that you'd post this topic on the JP forum.

    But, I find it funnier that most of the people in that topic have made points that it should be a tank instead.

    Seriously, though, I wouldn't mind it if FFXIV's role balance went back to the days of WoW where you'd have to desperately whisper any online tanks and beg them to tank for you because the alternative was queues that lasted for hours if they ever popped.
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by XSamsaraLotusX View Post
    Then have fun in the 1h+ DF.
    you mean like now xD
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  9. #119
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    Evermillion Mariposa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Tanking is boring. #FACT
    Not that I disagree, but the solution isn't to ignore the problem. By giving people more options for how to tank and making the role more fun in general (whether it be through combat mechanics, job overhauls, or whatever), more people will naturally want to tank.

    Unless hell freezes over, healers and especially tanks will always be the least played roles no matter what the developers do, but the problem will only get worse if they were to ignore it. Adding two dps jobs and nothing else seems like a good way to make things worse because now you'll have career tanks and healers leveling those jobs and not tanking or healing.
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    Last edited by Galaktica; 12-26-2016 at 11:46 PM.

  10. #120
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Tanking is boring. #FACT
    you no representative opinion is the actual broing thing here. #FACT
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