@Naoki Yoshida-> Make Samurai a DPS class!!!

[shao32]

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with i agree in this case add 2 versions of samurai to make happy all i dont think have a archanist of him go to be a solution, one of the mains problems that make this desing is you can't buff or nerf freely without affect the other how is fine.

i dont think we go to get another DPS in this expansion and if we get SAM only can go to tank, but i belive can be good to get a DPS version more late or the next expansion.

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thats not really true, at least in NA english forums a SAM dps is more or less more wanted, but in japanese forums SAM tank is a lot more acepted, ppl want samurai but is SE how decide the role and how make it, if it they do what we read here sure the game die the next day.

[Katana190]

To be fair, on the front of SAM I do recall Yoshi stating he sees it more as a DPS than a tank, however for all we know they may have talked him into changing his stance on it.

I think this applies to roles as well.
Remember he is the director and producer, of course he has his visions on the game. But I'm sure he trusts his battle team enough to discuss these things. I do know this exact interview but people forget that he has thoughts on it being a tank as well and branding it "Shogun" which I think is pretty rad!

I like this "we have enough tanks" argument that crops up, as if 3 melee DPS isn't enough either by this logic. No, adding a 4th positional-based DPS would certainly make for a vastly different playstyle against NIN, MNK and DRG...

If people want SAM as a DPS (even though it's unlikely; the job was close to being HW's tank over DRK, losing out due to not being compatible with the expansion setting) that's one thing, but trying to argue that 3 tanks is enough yet a 4th melee wouldn't be overkill is silly.

Exactly. We don't need more of anything, we have enough of everything. We got more jobs to keep the game interesting and add variety for all roles.

Edit: I mentioned this in the tank thread but I would also like to bring it up here, and hear thoughts about it. I'll quote myself.

I was thinking, if SAM is released and is a DPS. And we only get 2 DPS in this expansion, what would that mean for 5.0? Surely we would get a Tank and Healer? But a big argument people make about adding DPS is their appeal and their selling point for new players, as DPS is the most open and have the least responsibilities (In casual content). Going by this logic 5.0 would either see 3 new jobs AGAIN or 2 new jobs... and 1 would have to be a DPS. Leaving either Tank or Healer in the dark for FOUR YEARS. This doesn't seem like a healthy decision for the game.

[Iromi]

Yeah my argument about adding more dps does work lol because guess what...there are way more damage dealers in the FF numerical series then tanks.

We are missing many DD jobs from classic FF. This game still does not have a dagger class (not katana, DAGGER) it does not have a 2H sword DD just to name a few...so agaiiiiiin....we have sword and shield (knight) we have a 2H sword tank and an Axe tank. Now, which are we still missing?

As Yoshida said a couple days ago and in 2015, he needs to add what is most desired by the players. He said he hired those 2 devs (matsuno and the shin megami tensai dev) not only to make specific content but to help him to remember he needs to add what people are asking for. And as it stands now it clearly looks like more people want SAM as a DPS.

[FeliAiko]

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MMOs aren't the same as single player, turned-based affairs, hence different rules are applied to them. In fact, even within the single player games recurring Jobs weren't just the exact same thing every time but were adapted in accordance with the direction and game in question. SAM, if it comes in in XIV, would be no different - even more so as it's being put in a MMO environment.

Furthermore as far as Jobs being added, I'd rather see the roles they fill be based on being able to bring something substantial to the table compared to what's present and not so they fulfill frivolous requests/quotas like "we need a 2H Sword DPS" or "we need a Dagger user"

Also of course the majority are going to want a popular Job to be cast as a popular role, that hardly means anything. I'm sure if people had their way they'd want PLD, WAR and DRK to be reassigned as DPS Jobs too.

[Katana190]

This game still does not have a dagger class (not katana, DAGGER)

Am I reading this right?

[Remus]

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No daggers? We have Ninja don't we?

[Enur]

This game still does not have a dagger class (not katana, DAGGER)

My hands are empty in your eyes? or is this a sword?

[Iromi]

My hands are empty in your eyes? or is this a sword?

A dagger weapon in the game means there is a job specifically about daggers? Aka Thief? OMG all this time I've not even known...where do we go unlock the JOBThief?

Liek wh0a....

As far as I knew we only have Ninja job, which uses Katanas! O_O Please tell me where I can go unlock it so I can finally play my THF job...

LMAO PLD used daggers in 1.x...GUESS THAT MEANS PLD IS A DAGGER JOB! Nice logic dewd.

No daggers? We have Ninja don't we?

Oops I forgot to reply to you too Remus..lol yes you are reading that correctly. There is no FF dagger job, aka THF. Ninja uses Katanas. I do not consider Ninja THF. Whoever does..well...

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Thief_(job)

I do not see anything about Katanas being used on this page...do you? OR ninjas. I don't think you understand what I am saying....this game does not have a dagger job. Unless you consider Zidane a ninja...well then in that case there is really no point in bothering to reply anymore as I have made my point..and folks either see it or they don't. Also let's not derail this topic..its about making SAM a DPS.

[Katana190]

A dagger weapon in the game means there is a job specifically about daggers? Aka Thief? OMG all this time I've not even known...where do we go unlock the JOBThief?

Liek wh0a....

As far as I knew we only have Ninja job, which uses Katanas! O_O Please tell me where I can go unlock it so I can finally play my THF job...

LMAO PLD used daggers in 1.x...GUESS THAT MEANS PLD IS A DAGGER JOB! Nice logic dewd.

Erm... no. They use daggers, only a select few of their weapons are Katana-like daggers.

[Iromi]

Erm... no. They use daggers, only a select few of their weapons are Katana-like daggers.

Oh boy...okay, I guess ninja is thief.

again, PLD can use daggers so I guess we have 2 dagger jobs/classes.

I should go level those so I can finally be a THF >.> Personally to me ninja feels nothing like THF, it doesn't even have the green AF job armor like in the other FF games:



Mind you I am talking about the jobs..since that is what we use. But I digress, I guess everyone is saying we have THF because there is some daggers that a Katana wielding ninja job uses. To me the ninja AF looks just like a ninja. idk lol