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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladesinger View Post
    That's the thing - it's not a handheld, it's a hybrid which makes it rather unique and par for the course for a Nintendo console (^-^)
    It's a handheld that can be docked into a station to be played at home. That's like calling an iPod a full blown stereo system, you're buying into marketing ploy, Nintendo has done this in this past with the Gamecube Gameboy player, except this time they have access to much more powerful components to build with this time around. You're basically hyping yourself up for a Nvidia Shield K1 but with Nintendo placed somewhere on the unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    It's a handheld that can be docked into a station to be played at home. That's like calling an iPod a full blown stereo system, you're buying into marketing ploy, Nintendo has done this in this past with the Gamecube Gameboy player, except this time they have access to much more powerful components to build with this time around. You're basically hyping yourself up for a Nvidia Shield K1 but with Nintendo placed somewhere on the unit.
    https://i.4cdn.org/v/1480652936695.webm

    Rock solid, silky smooth 15 FPS FFXIV
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  3. #283
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    Hmmm FFXIV on the go?
    SOUNDS GREAT!!!!
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  4. #284
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladesinger View Post
    - The size of the wafer isn't public knowledge on any account unless Nintendo decided to lapse it's infamously titanic grasp on the specs of this or any of it's devices
    Nintendo Switch will use a Maxwell GPU, not Pascal according to this article, in fact it will not even use the new Parker SoC(System on a Chip). Right now it looks more like a variant of the Tegra X1 or Tegra K1 that nVidia already uses in their own Shield products. Link to article below;

    The Nintendo Switch game console coming in March won’t be more powerful than Sony’s three-year-old PlayStation 4, according to sources familiar with the system.
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  5. #285
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    The Nintendo Switch is apparently not going to run better than the PS4, or even the equivalent of the PS4. Nintendo have decided to not utilise the pull potential of the technology they are using apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Nintendo Switch will use a Maxwell GPU, not Pascal according to this article, in fact it will not even use the new Parker SoC(System on a Chip). Right now it looks more like a variant of the Tegra X1 or Tegra K1 that nVidia already uses in their own Shield products.
    I can't quite put my finger on it, but that whole article gives off a rather fishy smell. I...don't know if this should be taken seriously or not, starting with "Sources (Who wish to stay anonymous!) confirm..." is always a red flag for me. That may be a part of why it smells fishy. I'd say we wait and see what gets revealed rather then jump from article to article speculating. But that may also be tied to the fact that I am getting too old for hype whiplash these days...
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    I can't quite put my finger on it, but that whole article gives off a rather fishy smell. I...don't know if this should be taken seriously or not, starting with "Sources (Who wish to stay anonymous!) confirm..." is always a red flag for me. That may be a part of why it smells fishy. I'd say we wait and see what gets revealed rather then jump from article to article speculating. But that may also be tied to the fact that I am getting too old for hype whiplash these days...
    Every article about upcoming tech cites sources without specifying their names due to NDA restrictions.

    For what it's worth, I still think it's possible it will be the Pascal based Parker SoC. The article makes some very solid points about the TDP of the Parker based product announced for automotive applications. The Switch really has to obey the rules for tablets in that regard, so if Parker is still too hot for tablets, that would be an issue. I believe that the automotive application uses two Parkers and doesn't have the same thermal or power constraints that a hand held system does. If Switch uses Parker it will be a single Parker SoC, and it's clocking will be very dependent on thermal design.

    As the article points out, if the thermal/power envelope of Parker is not suitable yet for Switch, and almost certainly was not when Switch started life. Nintendo may have had no choice but to go with an optimized/customized Maxwell based design in order to meet the thermal and power demands of their design. It's all a bit muddy, but the Dev kits are definitely Tegra X1 based, I have seen that cited by multiple reports and sources. It would make sense to stick with X1 in the production unit for maximum compatibility with software being developed now.
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  8. #288
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    snip.
    Trust me I know about NDAs, worked in the tech sector long enough to accumulate quite a few that I am probably still under. I am not really out right calling this fake, just fishy. Indeed the article does raise a few good points about thermal constraints and how Parker SoC still doesn't work for tablets, it still feels like a speculation piece more then a solid report about the system's specs. I think it just might be my trained salt shaker skills keeping me from fully taking this in.

    I agree it is still possible they could use the Pascal based Parker SoC, specially with how Nvidia has been boasting about the Custom Tegra made for the switch, it would be odd to boast then not use their latest tech within it. Either way, I guess we'll see soon and I guess I'm just a little too skeptical these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    I agree it is still possible they could use the Pascal based Parker SoC, specially with how Nvidia has been boasting about the Custom Tegra made for the switch, it would be odd to boast then not use their latest tech within it. Either way, I guess we'll see soon and I guess I'm just a little too skeptical these days.
    The thing is, a custom Tegra, even based on Maxwell, could include design elements borrowed from the Pascal GPU family, along with enhancements and optimization of the original X1 design. So even if it's not Parker, it could still be pretty decent. Not sure how the 8 ARM cores on an X1 stack against the combination of 2 Denver cores + 4 ARM cores on Parker though.

    Skeptical is good. I am always skeptical of expansive claims about products that don't match the known technology, which seems increasingly common with tech products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    The thing is, a custom Tegra, even based on Maxwell, could include design elements borrowed from the Pascal GPU family, along with enhancements and optimization of the original X1 design. So even if it's not Parker, it could still be pretty decent.
    True, see your point there. Again, all I can really say is wait and see (Since I am still half awake right now and can't go...full tech talk. Sorry.) But a beefed up Maxwell based Tegra would still be pretty strong. Then again, Nintendo does have some tech wizards who are capable pulling way more then the tech being used is capable of. The Iwata compiling Pokemon Gold and Silver in a way that he saved enough memory to fit all of Kanto into the game is a good example of that.

    Skeptical is good. I am always skeptical of expansive claims about products that don't match the known technology, which seems increasingly common with tech products.
    True true! Skeptism can save you from being let down hard...or it can ensure great joy when you are right. either way!
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