Can we get rid of prisms please?

[Kaurie]

That logic can be applied to XIV as well, and you wouldn't even have to have all types of prisms in your inventory, since the most often used ones are LTW and WVR.

I carry around cloth, alchemy, leatherworking primarily, and I also carry around ~12 armor pieces for glamouring

And I have a hard time understanding why it's such an apparent huge inconvenience to just teleport to Limsa, take two steps, and buy a cheap prism off the marketboard to change your glamour. Do you get that bothered if you get a new piece of gear and you can't change its appearance right on the spot?

No, I have a problem that I have to glamour over a piece of new gear in the first place. I also take issue with the unnecessary usage of inventory space.

Since there was a comparison between prisms and transmutation charges, why would I mention WoW/Wildstar in such a comparison?
Besides, the whole weapon/armor skin unlocking is in WoW now, so that part is essentially the same as GW2, making it redundant to mention both of them.

There was more than just the 1 comparison. The initial post that you replied to have a direct comparison to all the systems of WoW, Wildstar and GW2. You then latched onto GW2.

Which can be done in a form of a glamour log, but I can't see the glamour prisms going anywhere.

A glamour log would be great. That is much more needed than the removal of prisms. Having prisms is simply an unnecessary nuisance that adds little value to the game.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree with the prism system, since this is just turning into a pointless back and forth. You obviously hate it (and possibly everything related to the current crafting system), and I'm completely fine with it (especially after the reduced amount of prism grades).

That is a fair summary of our discussion. Obviously, this is all related to ones opinions and we've both clearly stated our own. You're accurate to assume that I do hate everything related to the current crafting system. I've literally never disliked something in a video game more.

I having a good time at the moment reading the comptetivnes of a mmorpg is about glamour lol

A rather simplistic assumption. Obviously, there is more to the competitiveness of an MMORPG - ranging from graphics, combat, price, community etc. Glamour is definitely one aspect that may affect someones overall opinion of the game.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I carry around cloth, alchemy, leatherworking primarily, and I also carry around ~12 armor pieces for glamouring

Do you change gear that often that you need them on hand? I just keep everything on a retainer and grab them when needed. Its not that much of a problem lol

[Kaurie]

Do you change gear that often that you need them on hand? I just keep everything on a retainer and grab them when needed. Its not that much of a problem lol

The rate at which I change my glamour varies time to time, but probably on average I do it weekly.

That's excluding just glamouring new items to what I was wearing before (i.e. say I have Emporer's New Gloves glamoured to my hands, and then I get the 270 drop from Alex this week for gloves - I glamour again. If we include those, then I guess 2x per week on average - where 1 is a full outfit change and 1 is just updating an item to my chosen outfit. Obviously the outfit change requires 3+ prisms)

[Naunet]

Do you change gear that often that you need them on hand? I just keep everything on a retainer and grab them when needed. Its not that much of a problem lol

Or, we could have Rift or WildStar's system and not have to carry around ANYTHING related to glamour and change outfits whenever we want...

A glamour catalog still sounds like a massive hassle, TBH. So instead of perusing a small list of maybe 2-3 tabs, I'll have to scope through every single item I've ever gotten if I feel like modifying my glamour? No thanks. I prefer the current system, which let's me keep the glamours that are relevant to me and get rid of the rest.

Nothing would stop you from only learning the appearances of the few armor pieces you want. Good grief. -_-;

And would people stop assuming you pay with these other systems?? Making an outfit in Rift or WildStar costs ZERO plat. None. Completely free.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Or, we could have Rift or WildStar's system and not have to carry around ANYTHING related to glamour and change outfits whenever we want...

I already dont have to carry around the stuff, its on a retainer.

and it would get rather difficult to sift through all the gear we can glamour, even in a log. theres hundreds of gear pieces in the game.

edit: according to a quick search on xivdb, there are 2,853 pieces of equipable gear for dow/dom jobs.

[Naunet]

I already dont have to carry around the stuff, its on a retainer.

and it would get rather difficult to sift through all the gear we can glamour, even in a log. theres hundreds of gear pieces in the game.

Speaking as someone who plays both games regularly, it really is not difficult. Having a bunch of options at my fingertips, whenever I want, is conducive to greater flexibility in how my character looks.

Honestly, this is a complaint I've never seen before and it completely baffles me.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Honestly, this is a complaint I've never seen before and it completely baffles me.

Considering there's at minimum 600 individual pieces per slot, glamour logs in this game would become increasingly unwieldy and cumbersome to deal with. When I want to glamour something, I don't want to have to shuffle through page after page after page of glamours I don't want or like to get to the four or five that do. A glamour log that unlocks everything as soon as you pick up the relevant piece would be a complete nightmare, as opposed to the 1-2 pages I have to look through now. I know what look suits my character.

[Naunet]

Considering there's at minimum 600 individual pieces per slot, glamour logs in this game would become increasingly unwieldy and cumbersome to deal with. When I want to glamour something, I don't want to have to shuffle through page after page after page of glamours I don't want or like to get to the four or five that do. A glamour log that unlocks everything as soon as you pick up the relevant piece would be a complete nightmare, as opposed to the 1-2 pages I have to look through now. I know what look suits my character.

Then... don't learn everything? This isn't a real problem. Better customization and improvement on a terribly clunky system is > someone's minor complaint that they don't want to have to click through pages in a glamour log. Opening up my character panel to the Wardrobe tab and clicking on a gear slot to browse through available gear appearances there would be a heck of a lot more convenient than having to go through my inventory and retainers and right click-try on a bunch of items crowded onto two different retainers (and hopefully I'm not looking for something I shoved in the armoire).

That said, I highly doubt there are 600 unique armor models for each slot. MANY items use the same model. You're not going to be sifting through every unique item ID - just armor/weapon appearances. So basically, the problem you're worried about wouldn't be an issue.

[FabricioRF]

Considering there's at minimum 600 individual pieces per slot, glamour logs in this game would become increasingly unwieldy and cumbersome to deal with. When I want to glamour something, I don't want to have to shuffle through page after page after page of glamours I don't want or like to get to the four or five that do. A glamour log that unlocks everything as soon as you pick up the relevant piece would be a complete nightmare, as opposed to the 1-2 pages I have to look through now. I know what look suits my character.

Have you ever heard of "filters"?

[HaelseMikiro]

Considering there's at minimum 600 individual pieces per slot, glamour logs in this game would become increasingly unwieldy and cumbersome to deal with. When I want to glamour something, I don't want to have to shuffle through page after page after page of glamours I don't want or like to get to the four or five that do. A glamour log that unlocks everything as soon as you pick up the relevant piece would be a complete nightmare, as opposed to the 1-2 pages I have to look through now. I know what look suits my character.

Highly confident that IF SE were to implement a glamour log, they would give us a 'Favorites' section similar to the crafting logs, possibly with 10 glamours per slot