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    Can we get rid of prisms please?

    I,m hoping everyone can agree with me on this one, so se has given us only one prism now for each crafting class. And at least on my server they arent worth very much anymore. I'm hoping that maybe they will eventually get rid of this system to making glaming easy. I hope that they do ,why make this so complicated, Ive used potd just to skip this process in some cases cause I level fast if that's what I'm intending to do and I don't wana have to glam my clothes every two to three levels. Looks like with cutting out the other four prisms they seem to be on pace to get rid of this system I hope. What do you guys think are does anyone actually even like prisms and like the current system? My first time reaching cap on forums ha, didnt know that was gona happen, but I see the player base is pretty divided on this topic ha
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    They're fine as is
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    They certainly work as it is, but it's one of my least favourite systems that accomplish the same thing. I think the costume system in Wildstar worked well - speak to vendor, set costume, the no matter what gear you change, your costume stays the same. Guild Wars 2's system is pretty much the same as here IIRC, but fewer types of prisms and unlocked outfits. WoW's system works alright, with unlocked transmogs and you apply them to your gear at a vendor. IMO Wildstar > WoW > GW2 > FFXIV
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    They certainly work as it is, but it's one of my least favourite systems that accomplish the same thing. I think the costume system in Wildstar worked well - speak to vendor, set costume, the no matter what gear you change, your costume stays the same. Guild Wars 2's system is pretty much the same as here IIRC, but fewer types of prisms and unlocked outfits. WoW's system works alright, with unlocked transmogs and you apply them to your gear at a vendor. IMO Wildstar > GW2 > WoW > FFXIV
    Well swtor must have the best system then u just pay in game money to glam over anything u want if it fits your class, just really doesnt make sense to do it otherwise. What exactly are who exactly are prisms helping in the game its just a bit of an annoyance
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Well swtor must have the best system then u just pay in game money to glam over anything u want if it fits your class, just really doesnt make sense to do it otherwise. What exactly are who exactly are prisms helping in the game its just a bit of an annoyance
    I think the best system is from Rift :
    a second character sheet
    a "book" that keeps all the glam of all the armour you got
    no class restriction
    glam shared by all the charac of your account

    This system was designed by Vogue xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    I think the best system is from Rift :
    a second character sheet
    a "book" that keeps all the glam of all the armour you got
    no class restriction
    glam shared by all the charac of your account

    This system was designed by Vogue xD
    I havent played rift but , it sounds like a good system, I just wasnt use to a game tellin me hey you have to have prisms and need to be a certain level before u can even wear what u want. When I found out about this inconvenience I right away decided to level to 50 just so I could glam and went back to msq later. Like glamour is such a big part of the game I know that for some new players it may have been a deal breaker for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    They certainly work as it is, but it's one of my least favourite systems that accomplish the same thing. I think the costume system in Wildstar worked well - speak to vendor, set costume, the no matter what gear you change, your costume stays the same. Guild Wars 2's system is pretty much the same as here IIRC, but fewer types of prisms and unlocked outfits. WoW's system works alright, with unlocked transmogs and you apply them to your gear at a vendor. IMO Wildstar > GW2 > WoW > FFXIV
    Haven't played Wildstar much, but I do know that their glamour system is pretty good. Having it apply to an item slot instead of a piece of gear is nice.
    GW2's system of unlocking gear and weapon skins is great, as well as being able to change your look everywhere. But outside of the full outfits, I didn't really like how transmutation charges were obtained, it kinda discouraged me from changing my looks. WoW has a similar system to GW2 now, with some restrictions on unlocking appearances, and just a gold cost to change appearances.

    In my opinion, the near-perfect system would use:
    • GW2's unlocking system
    • WoW's transmog UI (GW2's UI works too)
    • WoW's ability to apply appearances to a spec/job. (For example, my mage has one set of gear, but looks different in each of the 3 specs)
    • XIV's prisms, as it allows crafters to make a bit of gil, if they're not into high end crafting (although a simple gil cost would probably be better, since it'd be a gil sink).

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    How is this lazy tho , think of the new player that has to wear that hideous gear before they hit level 50 without the prism system
    Leveling doesn't take ages, and new players will be upgrading their gear pretty often, along the way. I don't really see most of them spending gil on glamours to change their appearance, when it's only for like an hour or so.

    Besides, the prisms allow the lower end of crafters to make a bit of gil, so it'd be a bad thing to remove it. Prisms even make sense lore wise, particularly when it comes to imps, who seem to glamour themselves to look different.
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    They won't, however it would be so much nicer if glamouring consisted of opening a second character menu where whatever you equipped there immediately glamoured over your current gear. It'd also allow jobs that share gear to have different glamour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    They won't, however it would be so much nicer if glamouring consisted of opening a second character menu where whatever you equipped there immediately glamoured over your current gear. It'd also allow jobs that share gear to have different glamour.
    Why want they we just went from 5 per crafting class to just one single one now you dont think they could eventually phase it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    It'd also allow jobs that share gear to have different glamour.
    God that'd be nice. I really want to have different glamours for my PLD and DRK, or BRD and MCH, but since they share gear it's impossible except when wearing Artifact Gear. Which happens all of, what, once in an expansion cycle? At least if I want to keep them all reasonably well-geared.
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