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    This one is the next to me after sephirot and sophia .
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    And want see a remake of anima in stormblood ! Sry for my first post , i dont think it answer the thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    we might see a couple like in hw maybe 2 or 3 since the budgets bigger.
    id assume like last time 1 new and one old
    probably magus sisters or tritoch(3 elements)

    new one is anyones guess.
    Yoshie-P said that we would get a lot of primals in SB- Dunno how much is a lot. If we consider Enkidu, Thordan and Phoenix all primals ARR had 11 and HW had/has/will have 7 with Zurvan included, assuming wqe don't get any new regular primal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    But, he's a god? Much like Nophica or Halone? I can imagine the Spire as being a possible raid environment, but I doubt we'll be having any direct confrontations with the twelve.

    On a similar note, for those who are curious as to why SE's hesitant to condense the AST cards:
    http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/The_Twelve
    But during the calamity The Scoins did summon the Twelve as primals in an attempt to seal Bahamut again. I'm kinda expecting some twisted version of Rhalgr as well to be honest
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valenth View Post
    But during the calamity The Scoins did summon the Twelve as primals in an attempt to seal Bahamut again. I'm kinda expecting some twisted version of Rhalgr as well to be honest
    If I know correctly the plan was for Louisouix to die halfway into the summoning to make sure the twelve primals don't in fact become reality, but the poeple did began summing the twelve as primals.
    The way primal summoning works, everything can be a primal. If you are very hungry and have lots of crystals, wishing for a pizza could summon a primal pizza. But because recurring summons are a big part of what makes a final fantasy final fantasy, we will definitely have at least one old summon becomming a primal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    The way primal summoning works, everything can be a primal. If you are very hungry and have lots of crystals, wishing for a pizza could summon a primal pizza.
    You couldn't, there is more to it than wanting something and having crystals.
    No one believes in pizza the same way people believe in Jesus or Muhammad. Which is pretty much what the 12 are to Eorzeans, or the Primals to their tribes.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    You couldn't, there is more to it than wanting something and having crystals.
    No one believes in pizza the same way people believe in Jesus or Muhammad. Which is pretty much what the 12 are to Eorzeans, or the Primals to their tribes.
    I want to believe you, but the world has all sort of crazies. Besides Greg didn't worship Enkidu as a god. He was his friend. Yet he still summoned him in primal form just by wishing he was there. And Phoenix simply came from the wish to save Eorzea from destruction. Nobody prayed for Phoenix actually.
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    Personally, I think the Four Fiends are pretty fair game for Primal designs. I mean, they're either gonna end up as primals or as bosses in an Alliance raid.
    I just want Rubicante. Imagine him picking out a single player for an 'honorable duel', imagine that glorious exposed leg. Contain your orgasms.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    I want to believe you, but the world has all sort of crazies. Besides Greg didn't worship Enkidu as a god. He was his friend. Yet he still summoned him in primal form just by wishing he was there. And Phoenix simply came from the wish to save Eorzea from destruction. Nobody prayed for Phoenix actually.
    Enkidu, I know they officially count him as a primal, but for lore discussing them I really don't feel he is relevant. He's the joke summon of a joke character in a storyline that pretty much entirely exists because it's funny .

    The ingredient in Primal creation that IMHO is most often not discussed is a soul, it's why a captured Ifrit or Bahamut or whoever is a big deal, the summoners can't just gather crystals and make another.
    Ifrit, Titan, etc. are drawn from the lifestream by their followers prayers and given form through aether, Shiva, Pheonix, etc. use their own souls, either on purpose or inadvertently, as the foundation for the primal.

    Makes sense to me, and explains why the overworked guy delivering carts of crystals who thinks he really deserves a pay rise isn't accidentally turning his delivery into the fearsome 'Sack of Gil: The Lord of frivolous spending!'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Enkidu, I know they officially count him as a primal, but for lore discussing them I really don't feel he is relevant. He's the joke summon of a joke character in a storyline that pretty much entirely exists because it's funny .

    The ingredient in Primal creation that IMHO is most often not discussed is a soul, it's why a captured Ifrit or Bahamut or whoever is a big deal, the summoners can't just gather crystals and make another.
    Ifrit, Titan, etc. are drawn from the lifestream by their followers prayers and given form through aether, Shiva, Pheonix, etc. use their own souls, either on purpose or inadvertently, as the foundation for the primal.

    Makes sense to me, and explains why the overworked guy delivering carts of crystals who thinks he really deserves a pay rise isn't accidentally turning his delivery into the fearsome 'Sack of Gil: The Lord of frivolous spending!'
    Actually that would be a pretty fun primal to battle.
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