STORMBLOOD Primals

[Inosaska]

Real questions is when are "Summoners" going to get more egis? It's been long enough and at this point I'm thinking they will never be added.

[Lambdafish]

Real questions is when are "Summoners" going to get more egis? It's been long enough and at this point I'm thinking they will never be added.

The devs have discussed this a lot. I'll explain briefly but I suggest you do your own research. The devs cannot (will not) give SMN new egis because each egi represents 4 skills and a buttload of balancing. Even one new egi can change SMN drastically, which is why they decided to go down the trance route, and instead propose egi glamour for those who don't like the look of these 3 (supposedly releasing in 3.5).

Also... of the three egis, only one is ever used, if we had four, only one would ever get used, what a massive waste of resources that would be.

[Inosaska]

The devs have discussed this a lot. I'll explain briefly but I suggest you do your own research. The devs cannot (will not) give SMN new egis because each egi represents 4 skills and a buttload of balancing. Even one new egi can change SMN drastically, which is why they decided to go down the trance route, and instead propose egi glamour for those who don't like the look of these 3 (supposedly releasing in 3.5).

Also... of the three egis, only one is ever used, if we had four, only one would ever get used, what a massive waste of resources that would be.

Well so far only one does ever get used so better off to overhaul the class and remove the egis all together less time wasted on making the models and more time focused on making the class. You can summon temporary ones that give a buff of some sort and attack for a short period of time and then vanish. Contagion is overpowered and has made using ifrit useless so no point in having any other ones in the game right? Having them stick around temporarily would fit more with the lore of borrowing the powers of primals then to have them out all the time. The class is in need of a massive overhaul because it was rushed out and this is what they could come up with for the class at the time.

[Lambdafish]

Well so far only one does ever get used so better off to overhaul the class and remove the egis all together less time wasted on making the models and more time focused on making the class. You can summon temporary ones that give a buff of some sort and attack for a short period of time and then vanish. Contagion is overpowered and has made using ifrit useless so no point in having any other ones in the game right? Having them stick around temporarily would fit more with the lore of borrowing the powers of primals then to have them out all the time. The class is in need of a massive overhaul because it was rushed out and this is what they could come up with for the class at the time.

I agree somewhat, but I don't see that happening any time soon, if ever.

[Morningstar1337]

I think the Twelve are be off limits for one reason to another (Mainly due to the lack of a Halone Primal despite the "True Brothers of the Faith" being the type of people most likely to do it), At best there possibility would still be there but any attempts would be aborted.

Of course Ramuh and Shiva are very Similar to Rhalgr and Halone and its possible that the latter might had influenced the primal versions of the former.

The Espers are ambiguous with one of them being a Voidsent in the Void Arc (Cuchulain) but another having an Egi (Belias) so I think a 1:1 relationship and them being primals are mutually exclusive.

China's Four Symbols? That will depend on what will be the mount for getting all the Lanners.

As far as new primals go, any myth is fair game pretty much, Existing summons made primals? I'd say that Ixion might be involved, As a parallel to Ralgr and Ramuh. More High profile ones would include...I got nothing. predicting the next raid is gonna be tough when you already used the two most high profile summons for raids and gave the third a FATE and a trial. Though Shinryu as a normal monster turn primal would be a decent guess.

[Theodric]

I would not be opposed to the 'Four Fiends' being Primals/Eikons much in the same way as the Triad. I think they'd make for pretty interesting encounters in a similar side story.

FFX had some very interesting summons too, so the likes of Yojimbo and Anima could make an appearance. The latter, especially, would be perfect for a creepy encounter!

Then there's FFIX - which has a fair few Eidolons that could be inspiration for future battles.

[Kikoten]

I kind of hope they create brand new Primals, specifically for FFXIV. I want to see what they can come up with, without resorting to borrowing from their earlier works. It seems like most Pimals represent an element (Titan's earth, Ifrit's fire, Garuda's wind, Alexander's... something...) I'd like to see a Primal with divine properties, that wields holy magicks, unless Thordan and his Knights of Round have that covered. I can't remember.

[Bloody]

I kind of hope they create brand new Primals, specifically for FFXIV. I want to see what they can come up with, without resorting to borrowing from their earlier works. It seems like most Pimals represent an element (Titan's earth, Ifrit's fire, Garuda's wind, Alexander's... something...) I'd like to see a Primal with divine properties, that wields holy magicks, unless Thordan and his Knights of Round have that covered. I can't remember.

Alexander is Holy/Light-based, the FF version of divine stuffs. The basic primals are single element, Ravan and Bismarck were dual (or arguably tri for Bis) and the Warring Triad are ???. Making more dual element primals would be a good place to start, plus more Light/Dark primals would add some variety to the mix.

[Ametrine]

I just want Greiver to exist in FFXIV at some point.

[FinalWolf]

"You expect the Phoenix, yet you offer chicken fee."

We have to throw gil at him to prevent him from using Zanmoto.