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  1. #21
    Player
    Frizze's Avatar
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by randysquirrel View Post
    if you're going to bring numbers into it, at least be accurate. 17k wildfires and 12k fire IVs are nowhere near the ceiling amount these moves can hit for
    This. I dont have the best gear, and ive seen back to back 14k crits on F4 before. So i know we can go higher.
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  2. #22
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    randysquirrel's Avatar
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    Character
    Phoenix Silver
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Frizze View Post
    This. I dont have the best gear, and ive seen back to back 14k crits on F4 before. So i know we can go higher.
    Its always fun to see those high numbers. I hit two consecutive 23k fire IVs in my opener, about a month ago. My gear is better now, but I still have a ways to go. I took hate even through quelling and died straight away, but we still had a laugh about it. I can't imagine what those with bis are hitting
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  3. #23
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    Rawrz's Avatar
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    Character
    Sir Rawrz
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Bard
    Pros-
    High burst
    Lots of CDs to stack or save
    Loved for Foes
    Repelling shot is actually the shit
    Mobility even with cast times

    Cons-
    Mana slave [When your healers struggle, you suffer ]
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  4. #24
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    kingatlas's Avatar
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    Character
    Akylios Dono
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Yhoiryo View Post
    Better to run some parses instead.
    You shouldn't tell players to violate ToS....

    to OP, I think Monk is second highest burst on single target
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  5. #25
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Talya Stormbreaker
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Mix it up and try different jobs to see what you like playing best. Almost any job can be at the top as long as it's played with skill. All four of the dps on my static vie for top place. It really depends on the fight and how everyone plays. But yeah, like everyone said, aggro =/= top dps. If anything, when a dps rips hate off the tank and they have the tools not to do so, they're not playing their job properly.
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  6. #26
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    Yeol's Avatar
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    Character
    Dr Yeol
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Single target: MNK.
    AoE: SMN.
    Single target and AoE: BLM.

    Big burst: MCH, BRD and BLM.
    Balanced burst: NIN and DRG.
    Low burst: SMN and MNK.

    Jobs with big bursts have abilities to lower their enmity generation and must use them before their openers. Even mid fight where their opener is ready again.
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    Last edited by Yeol; 11-11-2016 at 06:05 PM.
    "BAAAAAARD!" - 2018

  7. #27
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Bevelle, Besaid Island
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    Character
    Flower Girl
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    Jobs with big bursts have abilities to lower their enmity generation and must use them before their openers. Even mid fight where your opener is ready again.
    they can but surely must not use them... if the tank(s) are aware of the impact they'll be fine. and as a side note... buffed DW every 60 seconds is calling low burst nowadays? (well... yeah i know, i know without stacks smns are worth a shit but that shouldn't be the generally situation. if we talk about that we can talk about messed up rotations at all for any cls)
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  8. #28
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    Yeol's Avatar
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    they can but surely must not use them... if the tank(s) are aware of the impact they'll be fine. and as a side note... buffed DW every 60 seconds is calling low burst nowadays? (well... yeah i know, i know without stacks smns are worth a shit but that shouldn't be the generally situation. if we talk about that we can talk about messed up rotations at all for any cls)
    If your MT wants to hold 1500+ dps in dps stance, yeah they must use them. And if you had a NIN "Shadewalker" is a must.

    When I said SMN has low burst I didn't mean it is shity xD (I apologize if it came out that way).
    It is just lower than other jobs when it comes to bursting on single target.
    Our SMN usually is top dps after MCH and NIN finish their openers, till the end of the fight he holds his position like a boss.
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    Last edited by Yeol; 12-08-2016 at 03:38 PM.
    "BAAAAAARD!" - 2018

  9. #29
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    Yhoiryo's Avatar
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    Character
    Snowy Dreams
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by kingatlas View Post
    You shouldn't tell players to violate ToS....

    to OP, I think Monk is second highest burst on single target
    It's a gray area, SE won't ban you for parsing yourself to improve your gameplay.

    It's when you bring it up, telling people that you parse and worst case, telling other people that they're doing poor dps as they can report you for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    they can but surely must not use them... if the tank(s) are aware of the impact they'll be fine. and as a side note... buffed DW every 60 seconds is calling low burst nowadays? (well... yeah i know, i know without stacks smns are worth a shit but that shouldn't be the generally situation. if we talk about that we can talk about messed up rotations at all for any cls)
    TBH SMN's really bring a lot more DPS, even out of DWT. Thanks to R3 having a 200 potency it should be used out of DWT as SMN's can be flexable with mp.
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    Last edited by Yhoiryo; 11-11-2016 at 07:53 PM.

  10. #30
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    Llynd's Avatar
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    Character
    Lynk Lloyd
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    I do agree, SMN is a pretty perfect class. Even on mono target it can come really close to a BLM, and on aoe it is godlike. Plus virus, E4E, and res are a very decent stuff to put out on a fight.
    But my favorite dps class is SCH, by far. ( hihi)
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