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    PrincessNuri's Avatar
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    Miss Romania
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    Zalera
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    Best DPS after Black Mage

    So I leveled a black mage to 60 since I was told that it was the best dps in game for this patch (I could have been misled about that but anyway it is done). However, I find it so frustrating that the slighest fart from a mob interrupts your casting.

    Simply doing Ifrit and Leviathon, for example, renders me useless because of all the running around or random fire explosions in the face you receive. I havent even done the normal savage runs with her yet but can already expect the pain awaiting me.

    So my question is, what dps is just as strong or slightly less than BLM which is also less stressful or easily interrupted for endgame?
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    Playing tank, I noticed only ninja and dragoon are the only classes close to ever grabbing hate from me with their dps. Because of this experience, which of these classes do you guys think can come close to BLM\\'s godlike power?

    I dont mind not seeing huge numbers but I do love racing with other dps to see who can fill their aggro bar the fastest or keep it high for the longest. Thank you guys for your input!
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    Khubla Kha
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessNuri View Post
    Playing tank, I noticed only ninja and dragoon are the only classes close to ever grabbing hate from me with their dps. Because of this experience, which of these classes do you guys think can come close to BLM\\'s godlike power?

    I dont mind not seeing huge numbers but I do love racing with other dps to see who can fill their aggro bar the fastest or keep it high for the longest. Thank you guys for your input!
    You've never played with anyone playing any of the other dps classes well then.
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    No matter where you go; there you are.

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    There's not a best dps as different jobs will excel in different scenarios.

    You should give SMN a try if you enjoy magic classes though, mobile and still able to push out high dps. Of course the only thing that you'll have to manage is a pet if even that, really it's just garuda that you'll want on obey.
    Also BRD is mobile ... ish, I don't personally mind WM and cast times and can put out good dps.

    I guess if you just want to see big numbers though, blm, drg ... maybe mch (only when they do their wildfire rotation) are the ones for you? Personally I haven't touched drg or nin so I can't say much for those but seeing the output/parsing they can do is impressive.

    Also don't judge a classes dps by how much hate they're gaining, that's a pretty poor measure. Better to run some parses instead.
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    Last edited by Yhoiryo; 11-04-2016 at 09:05 PM.

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    Akylios Dono
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yhoiryo View Post
    Better to run some parses instead.
    You shouldn't tell players to violate ToS....

    to OP, I think Monk is second highest burst on single target
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingatlas View Post
    You shouldn't tell players to violate ToS....

    to OP, I think Monk is second highest burst on single target
    It's a gray area, SE won't ban you for parsing yourself to improve your gameplay.

    It's when you bring it up, telling people that you parse and worst case, telling other people that they're doing poor dps as they can report you for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    they can but surely must not use them... if the tank(s) are aware of the impact they'll be fine. and as a side note... buffed DW every 60 seconds is calling low burst nowadays? (well... yeah i know, i know without stacks smns are worth a shit but that shouldn't be the generally situation. if we talk about that we can talk about messed up rotations at all for any cls)
    TBH SMN's really bring a lot more DPS, even out of DWT. Thanks to R3 having a 200 potency it should be used out of DWT as SMN's can be flexable with mp.
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    BLM definitely has the best raw power. Nothing can beat the wondrous feeling of seeing those 12k+ crits.

    Obviously though the mobility is an issue, and the melee classes have them beat there. I'd say that Monk really has the best consistent high-damage output, but the payoff for that is dependency on positioning and that its DPS suffers the most if you drop your combo. Ninja suffers less if a combo's dropped, but also requires the most effort juggling its buffs, debuffs, and combos along with Ninjutsu to maximize its DPS. I find Dragoon to be the happy medium with easily maintained combos, buffs and debuffs, and minimal DPS loss with a dropped combo; which is why it's my go-to for learning new fights.

    At least it was until I started tanking more, but you get the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhaneX View Post
    BLM definitely has the best raw power. Nothing can beat the wondrous feeling of seeing those 12k+ crits.

    Obviously though the mobility is an issue, and the melee classes have them beat there. I'd say that Monk really has the best consistent high-damage output, but the payoff for that is dependency on positioning and that its DPS suffers the most if you drop your combo. Ninja suffers less if a combo's dropped, but also requires the most effort juggling its buffs, debuffs, and combos along with Ninjutsu to maximize its DPS. I find Dragoon to be the happy medium with easily maintained combos, buffs and debuffs, and minimal DPS loss with a dropped combo; which is why it's my go-to for learning new fights.

    At least it was until I started tanking more, but you get the idea.
    12k crit? wildfire laughs at that. Right now wildfire can hit around 17k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    12k crit? wildfire laughs at that. Right now wildfire can hit around 17k.
    Maybe so, but that's once every couple of minutes to get all the buffs off CD.

    Not consistently with nearly every single hit interrupted only by the occasional Fire, Blizzard 3 or Blizzard 4 to refresh buffs.
    Not to mention 12k was a lowball at ilvl235-ish...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    12k crit? wildfire laughs at that. Right now wildfire can hit around 17k.
    i dunno depends on the player i did 17,9k as blm no biggie
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