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    Quote Originally Posted by No2631 View Post
    Only read the first post. Excellent exercise in building strawmen
    In what regard? Most of what I said was emphasizing on how much earlier spells build into later ones, and attempts to remove or simplify such a system are probably going to blow up in the devs' face. Also, I'm not just pulling theories out of thin air. I've seen people writing in and suggesting things like "instead of tanks have a zillion cooldowns, why not just 1 with a short cooldown?". Things that really make me happy that they're not to ones in charge, and also things that exacerbate my already intense paranoia.

    But, as I said before, this is mostly just made worse by a lack of specifics. Once Yoshi P and the rest of the FF team start stating more precisely what they have in mind, my worries will either be soothed, or I'll have more concrete stuff to go on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondera View Post
    But, as I said before, this is mostly just made worse by a lack of specifics. Once Yoshi P and the rest of the FF team start stating more precisely what they have in mind, my worries will either be soothed, or I'll have more concrete stuff to go on.
    They specifically showed three abilities that are being considered for removal/adjustment, which were Fists of Wind, Feint and Fracture. With that in mind, jumping straight to the assumption that they're adjusting (or even removing) fundamental abilities is just silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    They specifically showed three abilities that are being considered for removal/adjustment, which were Fists of Wind, Feint and Fracture.
    Feather Feet, not Fist of Wind, if I remember it right
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Feather Feet, not Fist of Wind, if I remember it right
    Yea, you're right. Checking back at the stream, it does seem to be Featherfoot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pondera View Post
    Featherfoot is something I'm really surprised to see on the chopping block, assuming reports are right and it's not Fists of Wind they're thinking of (though an increase in mobility before a boss blankets the room in AoEs could be extremely useful still). A 20% chance to safely ignore all damage, be it magic or physical, could save one's bacon. Again, I'd love to see this on my DRK. Stacking with DA-Dark Dance, 50% chance to dodge? Move over PLD, there's a new sheriff in town, and I'll be MTing everything from this point on.
    Except that's not how tankbusters work in this game. You don't use a CD like Featherfoot, then cross your fingers that you'll dodge the tankbuster, you use a CD that reduces your damage taken to ensure that you'll survive the tankbuster.

    But I guess you could use it to dodge an auto-attack or two, might even mean that your healer will have to cast one less cure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Except that's not how tankbusters work in this game. You don't use a CD like Featherfoot, then cross your fingers that you'll dodge the tankbuster, you use a CD that reduces your damage taken to ensure that you'll survive the tankbuster.

    But I guess you could use it to dodge an auto-attack or two, might even mean that your healer will have to cast one less cure!
    DA augmented dark dance would beg to differ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pondera View Post
    DA augmented dark dance would beg to differ.
    You're missing the point here. DA Dark Dance would increase your parry by 30% and your dodge/evasion by 20%, if you were to cross-class Feathefoot, that dodge/evasion would increase by 12% (since the MNK trait brings it up to 20%)
    This means that unless the tankbuster is Physical damage, you'll only have 32% chance of dodging it. If it's Physical, you also have a 30% of reducing the tankbuster's damage by 20%.

    Imagine a 50k tank buster is about to hit you, are you really gonna take a 1 in 3 chance to dodge it, or are you gonna use Shadow Wall to reliably survive it?
    If your choice is the former, then I'm sure your healers will be happy about having to waste a swiftcast raise to get you back up.
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