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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    The trailer screams it's a Dancer. Want Proof? The weapon is the proof. AkA "Dancing Dagger" which of course only Dancer's use. This is in plain sight with her gauntlet in the stormblood logo and hintly in the fight when the cloth protracts from her gauntlet and the Dagger is hidden in it.
    Yet in the trailer most of her offensive strikes are martial arts style hand and feet strikes and almost all of the readily identifiable moves are existing Monk or Pugilist moves. Even the bouncing, "dance" type move she does during the break in combat looks like Featherfoot. So we're arguing that she's Dancer because she uses one strike which might be construed to have a blade, out of the 20 or so moves that she performs, the remainder all being more akin to Monk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dement View Post
    Besides, does anyone really want this to be the confirmation for Dancer? A job that's almost identical to MNK but can dance a bit? I'd rather they implement something new and exciting than give us MNK again with altered moves.
    ermm almost every melee work the same, outside a small gimmick, in the case of the monk you can jump from a combo to another at will and must continue all the time for get buff, for ninja you have the combo system fixed and the ninjutsu, for the dragoon we do have the combo system fixed and the jump mechanic.

    if she use a new type of gimmick interestant why not. you are there saying she look like a monk, because she will fight at melee.... but honestly every melee dps are similar...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dement View Post
    Yet in the trailer most of her offensive strikes are martial arts style hand and feet strikes and almost all of the readily identifiable moves are existing Monk or Pugilist moves. Even the bouncing, "dance" type move she does during the break in combat looks like Featherfoot. So we're arguing that she's Dancer because she uses one strike which might be construed to have a blade, out of the 20 or so moves that she performs, the remainder all being more akin to Monk.
    Which might? It's in the Logo, lol. Also the Link i gave with Yoshida hinting Scarlet Witch, Dancer. Lol.
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  6. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    ermm almost every melee work the same, outside a small gimmick, in the case of the monk you can jump from a combo to another at will and must continue all the time for get buff, for ninja you have the combo system fixed and the ninjutsu, for the dragoon we do have the combo system fixed and the jump mechanic.

    if she use a new type of gimmick interestant why not. you are there saying she look like a monk, because she will fight at melee.... but honestly every melee dps are similar...
    While the game play is the same, aesthetically they are completely different. Monk moves do not look the same as Dragoon moves and Ninja moves. Aesthetically in the trailer, their move set looks almost identical.
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    Been digging around (haven't red most of this thread) so I dunno if this has been posted yet.

    http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Arylon



    There's a very distinct connection from the original Final Fantasy and a direct correlation to the woman in the red dress in Stormblood, and they both have blonde hair. Coincidence?
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    give me the difference please....
    i will be blunt, since they have forced the combo system in every melee, it's difficult to get a huge difference.
    the biggest difference is in the combo lenght, in the dragoon you have a very long cycle, when the monk is smaller and are more flexible (even if you want to reach the highest dps, you have a cycle quite fixed actually)

    you will do your combo, placing skill out of GCD between weaponskill of your combo. moving for the right position (if you try to reach the best dps)

    yeah we have another difference, is the speed between skill for the monk, is possible to reach below 1.9 gcd with the monk when a drg will be at best at 2.2.... outside this, we do have 2 DoT to place on the target, 2 main combo (one on the side and one on the back)
    one skill that reduce the defense againsst our type of damage. the monk did get the meditation, where the dragoon did get the dragonblood, for the monk is a skill kinda hard to place, that will be charged when you can't fight. the dragoon can keep the dragonblood up the longuest possible passing him combo from 3 weapon skill at 4 weapon skill.

    but in the absolute the two class play the same way, the difference lie in a few gimmick and a cycle that differe.... but if you look at the jobs in globality the difference are not that much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    Been digging around (haven't red most of this thread) so I dunno if this has been posted yet.

    http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Arylon



    There's a very distinct connection from the original Final Fantasy and a direct correlation to the woman in the red dress in Stormblood, and they both have blonde hair. Coincidence?
    Lol, a big Coincidence. I keep saying it's Dancer but everybody is like no it's a Monk. While Yoshida hinted at "Scarlet Witch" (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Aveng...ter-69426.html), everybody thinks it's a Red Mage later on and it's 2 Monks. Nope, It's a Monk and a Dancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    Which might? It's in the Logo, lol. Also the Link i gave with Yoshida hinting Scarlet Witch, Dancer. Lol.
    The logo and the trailer are two different things and at no point do you actively see a blade. She performs one strike which has a yellow trail which might be construed to have a hidden blade. All other strikes are fists and feet, period, this is factual.

    Also you never posted a link and I can't even imagine the lengths you have to go to to link Scarlet Witch with Dancer instead of Red Mage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dement View Post
    The logo and the trailer are two different things and at no point do you actively see a blade. She performs one strike which has a yellow trail which might be construed to have a hidden blade. All other strikes are fists and feet, period, this is factual.

    Also you never posted a link and I can't even imagine the lengths you have to go to to link Scarlet Witch with Dancer instead of Red Mage.
    http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Aveng...ter-69426.html

    So do i win yet?
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    Scarlet = Red
    Witch = Mage

    Dancer? LOL Wow, wishful thinking much?

    At this point, I'm going to say it's distinctly ambiguous. However, I'm leaning toward MNK simply because it would be such an overwhelming reveal of dancer at the NA fanfest, and they DON'T announce new jobs at the NA Fanfest.

    However, I said already and will say again. WHY would you WANT a DNC that could be so easily mistaken for a MNK? It's not distinct enough and it's like a MNK clone aesthetically. Lame. I hope if DNC is revealed they will make it much more unique.
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