There Is No Dancer (yet)

[Dorander]

this is absolutely valid and honestly the best argument against. a lot of things happen in cutscenes that we will never have the opportunity to do



you literally can't, or don't read huh? allow me to quote, since you apparently missed it the first time:
"if you scroll back a few pages, i state that there's no real proof either way which is why we're free to speculate"

can you read that? the only people i see here belligerently screaming over the forums are OP and you, with your "WAHHHHH STOP SPECULATING" rhetoric. never once have i claimed that it's confirmed, or anything besides a possibility so what's gotten you so offended? and why even bother posting if you can't read replies?

Says the one person who has yet to even acknowledge what I've said. So, obviously you are the one who is completely incapable of reading or understanding the words. Do I need to use smaller ones for you to understand? I never said speculation needed to stop. I've said "stop forcing a narrative that doesn't exist" three times now.

Xiao_ need take facts that exist. Not what is rattling around braincase.

Is that clear and simple enough for you? Though I doubt it, since you'll retort with some other type of asinine attack.

[silentwindfr]

we can't acknowledge stuff when what you say is wrong on too many way....

i did already give fact, absolute since they are limitation yoshida do have said to use for create new jobs or work on adding stuff to a jobs.
sadly it seems you don't care, you probably want to be able to do stuff like she do as fighter. however, i can't admit that she is monk. she is not monk, in ala miggho only two school of monk exist. the splendor and darkness. and both are from the same school, means them style are extremely close.

where this girl is the opposite of the monk (WoL), he is direct and most of the time do 1 hit with a lot of power, like a karate fighter. when she use combinaison of movement acrobatic fast and agile. they are like water and fire... yes she use a featherfeet skill (seems so) but that only a movement you can do for taunt your enemy, what she do at this point. snaps punch is a straight punch, basic move (not even monk move, more pugilist one), the charge, her movement in the charge is different she have her arm open in a movement of kung fu. and if you did notice, most of the melee dps, have a skill for get close... dragoon have jump, monk have shoulder tackle and ninja have the teleportation. since she seems to be a fighter a classical charge make sense.

you see it's easy to point your fact as not valid and counter them.... do that make me right? maybe, do that make you wrong? maybe, until we have an official statement. say with absolute that she is a monk.... is wrong as much than saying she is a dancer. most of us have said she did look like one. because she is too far from the monk.

when you have play a looooooooot of time with monk you can see it from the first move she use. everything she do scream not monk

[Reynhart]

this is absolutely valid and honestly the best argument against. a lot of things happen in cutscenes that we will never have the opportunity to do

That's why I posted that two pages ago :

You might want to study some tropes. ;-)

[EtherRose]

Uh, yes, it's a Dancer.

If any of you actually watched the trailer closely, you could easily draw the conclusion. If you watch the trailer again at 0.25x speed when they start fighting, a long red sleeve comes out her gauntlet as she swipes down on him. Also you'll notice a "Golden" line as well which would be the hidden blade. In FF Tactics Dancers used "Cloth" as a weapon or dagger in other instances, this incorporates both. Some people say "Oh but she's using Monk moves", Dancer is a subclass from Monk, duh. Others speculate "Red Mage" being released because Yoshida said something about Scarlet Witch. Obviously it's not a coincidence that the chakra of said dancer is "Red". Yoshida could be playing mind games.

[Dement]

Uh, yes, it's a Dancer.


If any of you actually watched the trailer closely, you could easily draw the conclusion. If you watch the trailer again at 0.25x speed when they start fighting, a long red sleeve comes out her gauntlet as she swipes down on him. Also you'll notice a "Golden" line as well which would be the hidden blade. In FF Tactics Dancers used "Cloth" as a weapon or dagger in other instances, this incorporates both. Some people say "Oh but she's using Monk moves", Dancer is a subclass from Monk, duh. Others speculate "Red Mage" being released because Yoshida said something about Scarlet Witch. Obviously it's not a coincidence that the chakra of said dancer is "Red". Yoshida could be playing mind games.

I watched the trailer closely and a drew the conclusion that it's a PUG or a MNK. Reposted from another thread:

Other than the costume, I don't think anything in the CS screams Dancer. When they start their battle, she takes the same stance as the WoL MNK. They trade blow for blow, perfectly countering each other. At 1:22 the sound effect indicates that she did Howling Fist before the WoL (whose hand is surrounded by wind) throws a punch that does the exact same sound effect. The only thing the trailer indicates to me is that the WoL is a terrible MNK. He uses Fists of Wind at the end and she uses Fists of Fire like a good MNK.

Edit: at 1:53 https://youtu.be/mAobb8_SzHY?t=113, she even throws a knee which looks almost exactly like the iconic image of the MNK concept art:

Yoshida didn't say anything about Scarlet Witch, he wore a Scarlet Witch shirt during the keynote at Fan Fest. Last NA Fanfest, he wore a Batman shirt (Dark Knight) and at the EU Fanfest he wore a 007 shirt (Machinist). So there is precedence that his shirts are usually clues so grasping at Red Mage isn't all that difficult. Meanwhile there is no precedence that trailers have ever hinted at a new job. The Heavensward trailer showed Dragoons... and that's it.

As for her chakra being "red", if only there were moves already in the game which would make them glow blue and glow red... something like Fists of Wind and Fists of Fire which are Monk moves.

As for Dancer being a subclass of Monk, they have repeatedly stated that they are trying to move away from the class system. DRK, AST, and MCH don't have base classes the way the original jobs do and I highly doubt they're going to reverse that position.

I agree that Dancer may very well be one of the new jobs but the trailer is not some incredible proof that it's there because she's wearing an outfit which has flowing cloth while performing MNK moves.

[Dement]

Besides, does anyone really want this to be the confirmation for Dancer? A job that's almost identical to MNK but can dance a bit? I'd rather they implement something new and exciting than give us MNK again with altered moves.

[Miste]

Uh, yes, it's a Dancer.

If any of you actually watched the trailer closely, you could easily draw the conclusion. If you watch the trailer again at 0.25x speed when they start fighting, a long red sleeve comes out her gauntlet as she swipes down on him. Also you'll notice a "Golden" line as well which would be the hidden blade. In FF Tactics Dancers used "Cloth" as a weapon or dagger in other instances, this incorporates both. Some people say "Oh but she's using Monk moves", Dancer is a subclass from Monk, duh. Others speculate "Red Mage" being released because Yoshida said something about Scarlet Witch. Obviously it's not a coincidence that the chakra of said dancer is "Red". Yoshida could be playing mind games.

Scarlet being another word for red and witch sort of being interchangeable with magician I personally believe his t-shirt likely hints at Red Mage. Can't know for sure though until new jobs are confirmed by SE. Scarlet Witch and Dancer just doesn't seem to have any connection that I can figure out which is why to me Red Mage seems more likely the hinted job there. I don't really know much about Marvel superheroes cept the well-known X-Men characters. I looked up Scarlet Witch and she was just a mutant that had powers (that can alter reality apparently according to Wikipedia) nothing about dancing or anything like that so.

Red Lady did some strange things in the video that makes me wonder if she is only a MNK, she seems like a MNK but that doesn't mean Dancer isn't a possibility for one of the new jobs. I really think Dancer will only be there if they made 3 new jobs for expac though. Red Mage and Samurai have been hinted at in general and that already takes two of them, but really even though hints were thrown everything is speculation until confirmation. SE could throw a curve ball maybe and do something unexpected. It sadly isn't a Dancer for sure at all though nor is any of the new jobs 100% confirmed.

Red Mage or Dancer or both I can't wait to play them anyway! I love when they add new jobs @.@

[SessionZero]

Eh, her "dancing" just looks like she's practicing martial arts forms to me, and she pretty clearly goes full MNK once they start sparring. The cloth weapon thing could be NPC exclusive, or it could be a new MNK weapon, or maybe she really is a Dancer. Who knows?

All we do know is that SE is keeping a tight lid on it for now and we can only speculate.

Uh, yes, it's a Dancer.

As an aside, unless you're the SE employee that personally coded Dancer into the game and have incontrovertible evidence for Dancer's existence, you may want to refrain from coming off so condescendingly.

[Keramory]

Besides, does anyone really want this to be the confirmation for Dancer? A job that's almost identical to MNK but can dance a bit? I'd rather they implement something new and exciting than give us MNK again with altered moves.

This for days. This was my entire point when I first posted.

Although I will say Redmage has been all but officially announced. Yoshi has said several times they wanted more casters in the game throughout development and the shirt hint is his trademark (I wonder how he goes about it :P).

[EtherRose]

I watched the trailer closely and a drew the conclusion that it's a PUG or a MNK. Reposted from another thread:


As for Dancer being a subclass of Monk, they have repeatedly stated that they are trying to move away from the class system. DRK, AST, and MCH don't have base classes the way the original jobs do and I highly doubt they're going to reverse that position.

I agree that Dancer may very well be one of the new jobs but the trailer is not some incredible proof that it's there because she's wearing an outfit which has flowing cloth while performing MNK moves.

The trailer screams it's a Dancer. Want Proof? The weapon is the proof. AkA "Dancing Dagger" which of course only Dancer's use. This is in plain sight with her gauntlet in the stormblood logo and hintly in the fight when the cloth protracts from her gauntlet and the Dagger is hidden in it.

Also here. http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Aveng...ter-69426.html

There's your "Scarlet Witch Dancer", i win. *cough*