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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    Uh, yes, it's a Dancer.


    If any of you actually watched the trailer closely, you could easily draw the conclusion. If you watch the trailer again at 0.25x speed when they start fighting, a long red sleeve comes out her gauntlet as she swipes down on him. Also you'll notice a "Golden" line as well which would be the hidden blade. In FF Tactics Dancers used "Cloth" as a weapon or dagger in other instances, this incorporates both. Some people say "Oh but she's using Monk moves", Dancer is a subclass from Monk, duh. Others speculate "Red Mage" being released because Yoshida said something about Scarlet Witch. Obviously it's not a coincidence that the chakra of said dancer is "Red". Yoshida could be playing mind games.
    I watched the trailer closely and a drew the conclusion that it's a PUG or a MNK. Reposted from another thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dement View Post
    Other than the costume, I don't think anything in the CS screams Dancer. When they start their battle, she takes the same stance as the WoL MNK. They trade blow for blow, perfectly countering each other. At 1:22 the sound effect indicates that she did Howling Fist before the WoL (whose hand is surrounded by wind) throws a punch that does the exact same sound effect. The only thing the trailer indicates to me is that the WoL is a terrible MNK. He uses Fists of Wind at the end and she uses Fists of Fire like a good MNK.

    Edit: at 1:53 https://youtu.be/mAobb8_SzHY?t=113, she even throws a knee which looks almost exactly like the iconic image of the MNK concept art:
    Yoshida didn't say anything about Scarlet Witch, he wore a Scarlet Witch shirt during the keynote at Fan Fest. Last NA Fanfest, he wore a Batman shirt (Dark Knight) and at the EU Fanfest he wore a 007 shirt (Machinist). So there is precedence that his shirts are usually clues so grasping at Red Mage isn't all that difficult. Meanwhile there is no precedence that trailers have ever hinted at a new job. The Heavensward trailer showed Dragoons... and that's it.

    As for her chakra being "red", if only there were moves already in the game which would make them glow blue and glow red... something like Fists of Wind and Fists of Fire which are Monk moves.

    As for Dancer being a subclass of Monk, they have repeatedly stated that they are trying to move away from the class system. DRK, AST, and MCH don't have base classes the way the original jobs do and I highly doubt they're going to reverse that position.

    I agree that Dancer may very well be one of the new jobs but the trailer is not some incredible proof that it's there because she's wearing an outfit which has flowing cloth while performing MNK moves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dement View Post
    I watched the trailer closely and a drew the conclusion that it's a PUG or a MNK. Reposted from another thread:


    As for Dancer being a subclass of Monk, they have repeatedly stated that they are trying to move away from the class system. DRK, AST, and MCH don't have base classes the way the original jobs do and I highly doubt they're going to reverse that position.

    I agree that Dancer may very well be one of the new jobs but the trailer is not some incredible proof that it's there because she's wearing an outfit which has flowing cloth while performing MNK moves.


    The trailer screams it's a Dancer. Want Proof? The weapon is the proof. AkA "Dancing Dagger" which of course only Dancer's use. This is in plain sight with her gauntlet in the stormblood logo and hintly in the fight when the cloth protracts from her gauntlet and the Dagger is hidden in it.

    Also here. http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Aveng...ter-69426.html

    There's your "Scarlet Witch Dancer", i win. *cough*
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    The trailer screams it's a Dancer. Want Proof? The weapon is the proof. AkA "Dancing Dagger" which of course only Dancer's use. This is in plain sight with her gauntlet in the stormblood logo and hintly in the fight when the cloth protracts from her gauntlet and the Dagger is hidden in it.
    Yet in the trailer most of her offensive strikes are martial arts style hand and feet strikes and almost all of the readily identifiable moves are existing Monk or Pugilist moves. Even the bouncing, "dance" type move she does during the break in combat looks like Featherfoot. So we're arguing that she's Dancer because she uses one strike which might be construed to have a blade, out of the 20 or so moves that she performs, the remainder all being more akin to Monk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dement View Post
    Yet in the trailer most of her offensive strikes are martial arts style hand and feet strikes and almost all of the readily identifiable moves are existing Monk or Pugilist moves. Even the bouncing, "dance" type move she does during the break in combat looks like Featherfoot. So we're arguing that she's Dancer because she uses one strike which might be construed to have a blade, out of the 20 or so moves that she performs, the remainder all being more akin to Monk.
    Which might? It's in the Logo, lol. Also the Link i gave with Yoshida hinting Scarlet Witch, Dancer. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    Which might? It's in the Logo, lol. Also the Link i gave with Yoshida hinting Scarlet Witch, Dancer. Lol.
    The logo and the trailer are two different things and at no point do you actively see a blade. She performs one strike which has a yellow trail which might be construed to have a hidden blade. All other strikes are fists and feet, period, this is factual.

    Also you never posted a link and I can't even imagine the lengths you have to go to to link Scarlet Witch with Dancer instead of Red Mage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dement View Post
    The logo and the trailer are two different things and at no point do you actively see a blade. She performs one strike which has a yellow trail which might be construed to have a hidden blade. All other strikes are fists and feet, period, this is factual.

    Also you never posted a link and I can't even imagine the lengths you have to go to to link Scarlet Witch with Dancer instead of Red Mage.
    http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Aveng...ter-69426.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    Fine, I'll bite. From your own article: "In Joss Whedon’s The Avengers: Age of Ultron, we can surely expect to see characters like Iron Man, Thor, Hulk and Captain America getting into fisticuffs with various henchmen and bad guys, but action sequences will be a very different deal when Elizabeth Olsen’s Scarlet Witch is involved. After all, she is more of a spell-caster than a punch-thrower." Your own straw grasping isn't necessarily on your side.

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