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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao_ View Post
    actually if you scroll back a few pages, i state that there's no real proof either way which is why we're free to speculate, so i'm not sure who "you all" is supposed to be. it's incredibly simple, we have monks in game and they don't move like the red lady in the trailer. nor do they dress like her, nor do they have daggers/hidden blades. acting like its a 100% certainty that she's just a monk is just as stupid as acting like she's 100% dancer. so maybe instead of being a moron and talking as an authority on something that we QUITE LITERALLY don't know, you can accept that it's a possibility.

    or just bury your head in the sand i guess, just like the "you all" that you're trying to patronise
    I wouldn't have to patronize you and those like yourself when there actually is, quite a bit of valid 'proof' in one direction. Here it is again where I posted it in another thread, but since I figure you are incapable of doing research, or taking the time to click links, I'll copy and paste.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    Yda is a pugilist, she's been referred to as that in the story.

    Papalymo is referred to as a thaumaturge.

    Thancred first calls himself a bard. Even though he, up to 2.2 quite obviously used gladiator skills, now he's been called a rogue and looks like one when he draws his weapons.

    Y'shtola has been referred to as a Conjurer, though she's quite often uses Collective Unconscious, which is an AST skill.

    Milfilia had a single dagger, though she was never shown in combat so it's likely that she had no 'battle' class/job.

    Urianger is an arcanist, however he wields a staff which is not possible by player arcanists, (though in the 3.4 story during his costume change he uses a book).

    Alphinaud is an Arcanist, and as such wields a book and summon carbuncles of different colors.

    Raubhan is a gladiator, and as I said in my post, used to dual wield swords. Though player gladiators are relegated to a single sword and shield.

    That's just the scions and Raubhan. Most have classes, and use skills/weapons outside of what a player character can. So, by looking at the teaser trailer, with the fact that this mystery girl meets the WoL who has 100% been confirmed to be a monk with nearly the same fighting style, one can safely assume that she is a monk or a pugilist. NOT a dancer.

    If it's revealed later that she is one, it'll be a first. Because up to this point, they have not showcased a single new job in any trailer. Plus, if dancer was the case, wouldn't have been more wise for Yoshi-P to have worn say a "Dance dance revolution" shirt instead of scarlet witch if they wanted to hint at that job?

    Instead, they gave us a taste of the expansion, Ala Mhigo, the hand of Rhalgr (and the new hub) and two sparing monks. People are really grasping at straws and doing mental gymnastics to force a narative that isn't there. If Dancer is a job that we get with Stormblood, great! However, at this time there is absolutely nothing that we've been shown that even hints at it.
    Maybe you, and yes I am referring directly to you "XIAO_" need to stop putting your fingers in your ears and/or burring your head in the sand when you are being all but slapped about the face with all the proof you need. Speculation is one thing, but forcing a narative that isn't there due to your own wants and desires for something isn't no longer speculation. It's conjecture at best, and flat out lying to yourself at worst.

    Though we should all know by now that people like yourself will be the first to fly to the forums and scream in countless threads, berating S.E. for 'backtracking' on dancer because it was 'CONFIRMED!'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao_ View Post
    it's incredibly simple, we have monks in game and they don't move like the red lady in the trailer.
    Is the concept of "cinematic action" or "cutscene" that hard to understand ?

    So I suppose we'll receive the Ranger job since, in the ARR Opening, we saw the Mi'Qote creating a shield to protect the Warrior. And we'll also get the Devout from CNJ, that will infuse elemental magic into weapons, or a buff to Steel Cyclone because we clearly saw it bypassing Ravana's shield...and a buff to Holmgang, to use on multiple targets...and a new BLM skill to instantly charge a MNK limit break...which is obviously not Final Heaven since it clearly strikes in an AoE...
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    I have to say i agree with Dorander here. It is not to say however that there will not be a dancer, it's like i said the lady in red is most likely a Monk and perhaps she did dance like moves as a tease to an upcoming job, or perhaps it is different Monk fighting style, or it could be them trolling people for speculation, hehe
    The artwork for Stormblood is very interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Is the concept of "cinematic action" or "cutscene" that hard to understand ?

    So I suppose we'll receive the Ranger job since, in the ARR Opening, we saw the Mi'Qote creating a shield to protect the Warrior. And we'll also get the Devout from CNJ, that will infuse elemental magic into weapons, or a buff to Steel Cyclone because we clearly saw it bypassing Ravana's shield...and a buff to Holmgang, to use on multiple targets...and a new BLM skill to instantly charge a MNK limit break...which is obviously not Final Heaven since it clearly strikes in an AoE...
    this is absolutely valid and honestly the best argument against. a lot of things happen in cutscenes that we will never have the opportunity to do

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    Though we should all know by now that people like yourself will be the first to fly to the forums and scream in countless threads, berating S.E. for 'backtracking' on dancer because it was 'CONFIRMED!'
    you literally can't, or don't read huh? allow me to quote, since you apparently missed it the first time:
    "if you scroll back a few pages, i state that there's no real proof either way which is why we're free to speculate"

    can you read that? the only people i see here belligerently screaming over the forums are OP and you, with your "WAHHHHH STOP SPECULATING" rhetoric. never once have i claimed that it's confirmed, or anything besides a possibility so what's gotten you so offended? and why even bother posting if you can't read replies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao_ View Post
    this is absolutely valid and honestly the best argument against. a lot of things happen in cutscenes that we will never have the opportunity to do



    you literally can't, or don't read huh? allow me to quote, since you apparently missed it the first time:
    "if you scroll back a few pages, i state that there's no real proof either way which is why we're free to speculate"

    can you read that? the only people i see here belligerently screaming over the forums are OP and you, with your "WAHHHHH STOP SPECULATING" rhetoric. never once have i claimed that it's confirmed, or anything besides a possibility so what's gotten you so offended? and why even bother posting if you can't read replies?
    Says the one person who has yet to even acknowledge what I've said. So, obviously you are the one who is completely incapable of reading or understanding the words. Do I need to use smaller ones for you to understand? I never said speculation needed to stop. I've said "stop forcing a narrative that doesn't exist" three times now.

    Xiao_ need take facts that exist. Not what is rattling around braincase.

    Is that clear and simple enough for you? Though I doubt it, since you'll retort with some other type of asinine attack.
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    Last edited by Dorander; 10-18-2016 at 10:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao_ View Post
    this is absolutely valid and honestly the best argument against. a lot of things happen in cutscenes that we will never have the opportunity to do
    That's why I posted that two pages ago :
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    You might want to study some tropes. ;-)
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    Also if you follow dataminers on reddit or other sites they uncover key words in the manual patches that point to dancer redmage and other jobs Rowena they found is a dancer. I mean its not right but ppl will do w/e it takes to find info on things they love.
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    Last edited by Mikai; 10-17-2016 at 03:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikai View Post
    Also if you follow dataminers on reddit or other sites they uncover key words in the manual patches that point to dancer redmage and other jobs Rowena they found is a dancer. I mean its not right but ppl will do w/e it takes to find info on things they love.
    I dunno how SE does things, but there are times when companies put in fake information for dataminers to find. I wish more companied did that, datamining takes away the fun. =(
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    I totally agree with you.
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    What if Dancer is just Post-60 Monk?

    The woman in the trailer is clearly using Monk moves, but she also uses skills that Monk does not (currently) have. My speculation is that the Monk storyline will have you go to Ala Mhigo to train with their battle dancers and learn their moves, including weighted cloth attacks.
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