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  1. #151
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    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Well, i wonder what some people see....

    To me those things are obvious:
    • Exact same battle-pose before the fight starts (#1m08s), which is pretty similar (but different) to standard monk weapon drawn stance.
    • The male does a forward leap punch.
      The female blocks, does a move which is pretty similar to part of monk's /bstance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xswDRz2DHPQ) and then counter's with the exact same move.
    • another set of mirrored moves (#1m40s)
    • no actual "fluid" attacks, but things like a devastating "knee strike" and then (again) a mirrored kick.
    • Both have a chakra aura, both finish with a full-charged leap to each other (again, mirrored).
    • She uses a weapon. But Raubahn (Gladiator) uses two swords. Papalymo wears plate gauntlets. Ida and Papalymo combine their powers for a final flare attack.
      Those things define npc characters. And Monks use bladed weapons attached to their hands, too, anyway. To have a weapon model with just one hand bladed isn't impossible at all.

    Besides, so far monks has been described as the non-plus-ultra regarding hand-2-hand combat. Even to the point they almost got wiped out by the Garleans.

    So unless
    • there a third faction in Ala Mi'gho rivaling the 2 known monk factions regarging hand-2-hand combat
    • dancer is as much focussed on all-out-attacks as monk (not more evasive or distractive)
    • dancers most used attacks have nothing to do with actually dancing
    • dancer is another job of pugilist, which also utilizes chakra (which would be kinda lame) ... (and only working if new jobs get actually a base class).
      But then we have seen nothing which is worth considering as an dancer "job ability". Just /dance isn't one.
    there is no dancer in this teaser. If they tell us they go back to double-job classes then I will reconsider this.

    But so far... nope, that's a monk, who moves like a monk and punches/kicks like a monk, uses chakra like a monk and danced for unknown reasons about 10s.
    Maybe to hint dancer as a possible new class in 4.x, but sure not to make her a dancer.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 10-19-2016 at 01:37 AM.

  2. #152
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    Dement's Avatar
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    Dement Drachte
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    Coeurl
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    Warrior Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    Fine, I'll bite. From your own article: "In Joss Whedon’s The Avengers: Age of Ultron, we can surely expect to see characters like Iron Man, Thor, Hulk and Captain America getting into fisticuffs with various henchmen and bad guys, but action sequences will be a very different deal when Elizabeth Olsen’s Scarlet Witch is involved. After all, she is more of a spell-caster than a punch-thrower." Your own straw grasping isn't necessarily on your side.

    Do I win yet?
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  3. #153
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    Ether Rose
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    Diabolos
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dement View Post
    Fine, I'll bite. From your own article: "In Joss Whedon’s The Avengers: Age of Ultron, we can surely expect to see characters like Iron Man, Thor, Hulk and Captain America getting into fisticuffs with various henchmen and bad guys, but action sequences will be a very different deal when Elizabeth Olsen’s Scarlet Witch is involved. After all, she is more of a spell-caster than a punch-thrower." Your own straw grasping isn't necessarily on your side.

    Do I win yet?
    You do realize Dancers are able to cast spells as well right? Lol.
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  4. #154
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    Dement Drachte
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    Quote Originally Posted by EtherRose View Post
    You do realize Dancers are able to cast spells as well right? Lol.
    You do realize that most Dancers, in fact, don't cast spells right? Penelo is the most notable exception.

    But maybe you're right, maybe when deciding how best to drop a hint on a job by wearing a shirt, the team decided that instead of taking the most logical interpretation, they would reference one article about one piece of work that involves the Scarlet Witch. Then they didn't bother to read that article enough to the 4th sentence where it says she isn't a punch-thrower... but still that's how they were going to tease their Dancer which throws so many punches that most people think it's a monk. This doesn't even take into account that they said Red Mage was among the highest priority for the dev team during the Rising Event of 2015.
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    Last edited by Dement; 10-19-2016 at 02:01 AM.

  5. #155
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    Kikoten's Avatar
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    Lucky Tails
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    Brynhildr
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Whoo! 16 pages and still going! Is she a Dancer?

    Yes
    +Her dress is, perhaps, a telling hint
    +The hint dropped during the Posing Rangers event
    +She's "dancing" when we first see her
    +She seems to be utilizing kicks more than punches -- perhaps a DNC's main mode of attack?
    +A blade at the end of her ribbon

    No
    -Her "dance" is not a "dance," but a martial arts form*
    -She uses MNK abilities in the teaser
    -Her arm blade is a MNK weapon
    -She's rumored to be Yda, who is a Pugilist (or MNK)
    -Ala Mhigo is likely a homeland for monks

    *I practice martial arts, and I, as well as anyone else who practices martial arts, I assume, do not see myself as a "dancer" when I practice a slow-moving form; therefore, I don't treat it like a dance.
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  6. #156
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    Crysten Kimura
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    ITT: If it walks like a monk, talks like a monk, does tai-chi-esque martial arts movements like a monk, punches like a monk, kicks like a monk, chakras like a monk but wears a pretty dress, then it must be a friggin' Dancer
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

  7. #157
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    Riley Fuller
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    Faerie
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Crysten View Post
    ITT: If it walks like a monk, talks like a monk, does tai-chi-esque martial arts movements like a monk, punches like a monk, kicks like a monk, chakras like a monk but wears a pretty dress, then it must be a friggin' Dancer
    I wish I could like this more than once. You sir/madam win an internet cookie today.
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  8. #158
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    KaitlanKela's Avatar
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    Kekela Kela
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Crysten View Post
    ITT: If it walks like a monk, talks like a monk, does tai-chi-esque martial arts movements like a monk, punches like a monk, kicks like a monk, chakras like a monk but wears a pretty dress, then it must be a friggin' Dancer
    QFT

    /10 char
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  9. #159
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    Lucky Tails
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    Whether or not the lady in the trailer was a DNC aside, I just remembered something. SE loves to use their franchises as much as they can, like with Biggs and Wedge being in plenty of FF games, as well as Cid. Suppose that name, Arylon could actually be the name of the lady in the teaser? Or, maybe more of a stretch, what if Yda is not Yda's real name... but it's Arylon? Princess Arylon?
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    Three Ilm Knights, One Thousand Malm Road

  10. #160
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    The T-shirt Yoshi had on was the hint for Red mage, not the lady in red that is a Monk, lol
    Wow some of you.. i just don't
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