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  1. #41
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    RobbieH's Avatar
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    Agin Wildfang
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    While I agree with your base premise, I think you are blowing the problem out of proportion.
    For example, on FFLogs, there are more parse clears of Creator Savage with Paladins (9,435) than Dark Knights (6,239), https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/13/#class=Tanks Note that Warriors are at 15k :\
    For A9S specifically, PLD = 2.9k, DRK = 1.5k, WAR = 4.1k. So, if anything, Paladin seems more desired.

    For DPS on A9S it seems pretty even:
    Summoner 2,032
    Black Mage 2,594
    Monk 2,298
    Ninja 2,887
    Dragoon 3,362
    Machinist 2,104
    Bard 2,320
    Yes but that setup with PLD and/or BRD isn't a target for World First runs, which was the point of my comment despite not mentioning it.

    Even for the highest DPS setups BRD and PLD have to be left out, and this is the issue that needs fixing, PLD needs to do more DPS and BRD needs an increase of DPS or better utility.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Monk 2,298
    Ninja 2,887
    Dragoon 3,3620
    Here's an example, MNK isn't part of the Highest possible party DPS despite having the highest single target DPS on the game, NIN and DRG both provide utility that surpasses what would be accomplished if either DRG or NIN was replaced by MNK, i'm not saying it doesn't work, it surely does, it's just that isn't as viable, and on early phases were people aren't well geared yet the most the DPS the better.

    MCH has better DPS and Utility than BRD does for party DPS, that's why i said BRD is left out, i just didn't mention for what (run at World First).

    I've quit soon after 3.3 came out, came back now to secure my house, will try out PotD and maybe do weekly tomes, anyway since i quit the setup seems to be the same: DRK, WAR, WHM/AST, SCH, NIN, DRG, BLM/SMN and MCH

    PLD and BRD are still left out, again they work, it's just that it's not as effective, so people are inclined to pick the "better" jobs.
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  2. #42
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    MiniPrinny's Avatar
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    Sakura Yukimoto
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpark View Post
    3.I have been adamantly not liking the combat of any game with GCD because it encourages me to stare at UI instead of the action on screen. And I have been against speeding up the GCD to the speed of WoW. I am typically a WoW hater.

    But I realized that more than speed, I cannot stand waiting for a skill to be ready in GCD systems. If the GCD is going to stay in this game, then it needs to be raised to at least 1.5 seconds.

    Three is more of a rant, but I fear the GCD will stay the same.


    Wants a word with you. If you feel like you're "waiting" in this game, you're doing something wrong or not doing the right content for you to be challenged.
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    Something... something... edginess... shadows... wait... I'm supposed to be a paragon of love and justice!

  3. #43
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    Kaurie Lorhart
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieH View Post
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    Indeed, as I said, I agree with your premise. I just figured you blew the problem out of proportion. Yes, world first teams will take the most optimal paths, where they squeeze out an extra 100 Raid DPS by taking this 1 job over the other. However, it's hardly a requirement for the raid as a whole.

    If you want to do world first, you make those kinds of sacrifices. If you want to have fun and play the job you enjoy, the game is designed so that you are still able to.

    As a note, my team is a PLD, WAR, BLM, SMN, MNK, NIN, AST, WHM. We're hardly the optimal set up, but we're on Phase 2 of A11S and we raid only 2 days a week. It's entirely possible to play what you want and take part in raiding.
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  4. #44
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    vp_cmc's Avatar
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    Character
    Tee Hee
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    Brd looks ok in a9s and a10s, because there you don't suddenly have to run somewhere, all moves are predictable and can be made in advance between casts. In a11s in a12s mch looks much better with all that running.
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  5. #45
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    Ghastly's Avatar
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    Character
    Ast Eryut
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    No viera...
    The japanese fans got their au ra

    NA wanted viera the most but we're ignored
    (10)

  6. #46
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    Balipu's Avatar
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    Tea Mysidia
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 90
    Biggest fear? Stuff that worked very well gets left out for no reason. Heavensward kicked out class skill, traits, base classes, artifact armor reward from job quests, guildhests, levequests and hunting logs. I know most people complain that it was more of the same, but in some aspects it was less of the same, and I think those parts were worse. Oh we also lost primals having three difficulties and trials for the relic weapon and Hildibrand.
    I'd prefer getting those back or at the very least not loosing more.
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  7. #47
    Player ErikMynhier's Avatar
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    Erik Mynhier
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    I'm worried the battle system overhaul will be botched and we will have a month of twice-weekly hotfixes.
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  8. #48
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    Gramul's Avatar
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    Eisen Gramul
    World
    Hyperion
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Genaxx View Post
    Same ####, differernt skin.

    Patches get boring after 2 weeks once you complete the new content and the its back to weekly tome caps.
    That seems less like a fear and more like a rational expectation.
    I mean honestly, what do you expect them to do? All our content is streamlined, we have no major weaknesses/defenses in regards of elements or monster types to consider, all challenges are delegated to instanced duties, and the overworld has no danger at all. This is the future we choose.
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  9. #49
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Character
    Light Khah
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 91
    Well that the last two or three NPC that I like will die...that they somehow introduce someone that behaves like Haurchefant because they realized that a story might need someone like him to make it more optimistic (only my opinion). More main story scenes that make our WoL look stupid and incompetent for the sake of telling their story.

    That they gate crafting and gathering even more behind things like specialization or timed nodes..

    Finding out that we dont get more inventory because "reasons". And no more deeper customization of existing races..
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  10. #50
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    Teraluna's Avatar
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    Character
    Tera Luna
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    1. That WHM gets ignored again when another very close healing class gets the winning lottery ticket of improvements - looking at you Ast.

    2. That any new class introduced parasites half it's skills from an existing class - on top of the cross over skills and gives nothing back to the other healing classes - oh it's the Ast again

    3. That they continue with forced single player Duties that don't have the option of being able to pop in and help players who are struggling or blocked with it. MMO - Massive Mutli-player - the clue's in the description. I should be able to help out other people, that's why I play healers.
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