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    Lore Book Revelations

    A thread for all the new lore book facts/revelations etc

    So far we have two big ones

    https://twitter.com/Mrhappy1227/stat...74011133902848

    The two remaining members of the First Brood are named Vrta and Azdaja

    and http://folkenface.tumblr.com/post/15...-the-lore-book

    Which gives some pretty big hints about who the women is in the Stormblood Trailer and tells us who the lost heir is.

    Edit: OHHHHH http://melodyofpromises.tumblr.com/p...k-is-this-shit

    If you get/have a copy feel free to add your own findings
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    Last edited by Slatersev; 10-15-2016 at 01:20 PM.

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    another one is about the legati
    Particularly Nael
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    Okay then. that's what I'll do. I'll tell you a story. Can you hear them? All these people who lived in terror of you and your judgement. All these people who's ancestors devoted themselves to you, sacrificed themselves to you. Can you hear them singing?

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    *MIND BLOWN*

    Wh.. what... Nael is officially a woman... what is this.. I don't even...

    So the lyrics of Rise of the White Raven are cannoically wrong then and even Urianger's musings during the Coil storyline are all now retconned as incorrect. I just can't wrap my head around this....

    EDIT: and I really shouldn't skim read through it, as rereading it more closely, it does now make sense - Eula took her older brother's identity in the Garlean Military, so the army's records at least would have all registered Nael as a man (of course given how advanced Garlean technology is it's doubtful she could have maintained the ruse medically for long, but the fact she developed a reputation for being merciless and aggressive would have probably cowed anyone foolish enough to try and dig up that particular little skeleton in her closet. And from that everyone else, including the Eorzean Alliance, the Circle of Knowing/Path of the Twelve/Scions of the Seventh Dawn (and in particular Urianger), would have also swallowed the lie too. It all makes sense.
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 10-15-2016 at 01:56 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    *MIND BLOWN*

    Wh.. what... Nael is officially a woman... what is this.. I don't even...

    So the lyrics of Rise of the White Raven are cannoically wrong then and even Urianger's musings during the Coil storyline are all now retconned as incorrect. I just can't wrap my head around this....
    But are they retconned? Remember, the lyrics of the songs for Primals (and Nael, as well) are often sung from the point of view of their followers. Notable exceptions being Shiva and Ravana, of course. But with regards to Titan, Leviathan, Ramuh, the Good King, and quite a few of the Alexander themes, all are sung from the point of view of their respective beast tribes. Rise of the White Raven is no different. At no point in the lyrics does it use the word "I". It always says "he" or "his."

    Is it a clever, if kinda-sorta flimsy, explanation? Yeah. Does it work within our past understanding of the game? I believe so.
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    Last edited by Mysteltain; 10-15-2016 at 01:43 PM.

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    Nael's backstory officially confirms she was a chick.

    Gaius officially dead.

    WUT ABOOT LAHABREA?! DID HE KICK THE BUCKET 100% FOR SURE FOR GOOD?!?
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    Trpimir Ratyasch's Way Status (7.3 - End)
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    "There is no hope in stubbornly clinging to the past. It is our duty to face the future and march onward, not retreat inward." -Sovetsky Soyuz, Azur Lane: Snowrealm Peregrination

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Gaius officially dead.
    B-but, this book is written from the perspective of what people on Hydaelyn would know. Sooooo, if no one knows that he survived, then of course the book would say that he died! ...Right?

    *sigh* Or maybe we should all just accept it...even though that's the boring way out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteltain View Post
    B-but, this book is written from the perspective of what people on Hydaelyn would know. Sooooo, if no one knows that he survived, then of course the book would say that he died! ...Right?

    *sigh* Or maybe we should all just accept it...even though that's the boring way out of it.
    Both Regula and Zenos seem way more/just as interesting anyway, Regula has the same type of loyalty for an Emperor and especially Zenos seems like he'll be interesting because YoshiP stressed learning about him and his motives in SB and the fact that he's part of the Royal family.

    I bet his dad was the Uncle Varis overthrew to become Emperor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysteltain View Post
    B-but, this book is written from the perspective of what people on Hydaelyn would know. Sooooo, if no one knows that he survived, then of course the book would say that he died! ...Right?
    If that were true there wouldn't be relatively detailed information on the Calamities or Eula / Nael's backstory, cuz from the sounds of it she killed everyone who knew her true sex before assuming the role of "Nael van Darnus."
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    "There is no hope in stubbornly clinging to the past. It is our duty to face the future and march onward, not retreat inward." -Sovetsky Soyuz, Azur Lane: Snowrealm Peregrination

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    When can we pre-order this book???????

    So much need for it, these teases are killing me...
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    The book is for sell at the fanfest. It goes on sale online for NA on the 17th.
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