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    Short-hand confirmation of a few things:

    The Rejoining is about re-consolidating enough aether into the Source to restore Zodiark.

    The Ascian overlords do seem to be one from each world. Nabriales from the Twelfth, Igeyorhm form the Thirteenth. Igeyorhm's machinations resulted in a Flood of Darkness, robbing the world of its aether and negating both life and death. Starved of aether, the entities within became twisted and monstrous. She served Lahabrea as an act of redemption for this failure to secure a Rejoining.

    The Ascian cast out of the First was Mitron.

    Elidibus - even in his mission to Rejoin the worlds while preventing them from being lost to the Floods - remains a steadfast servant to the will of the Dark.

    I'd love to stay up all night dumping more little clarifications and tid-bits in here, but I must sleep.

    Rest assured: The book covers the knowns as of 3.3, fills in the gaps (especially ones pointed out through this very forum), gives hard-canon to things that were vague and/or have been adjusted, and contains new information in general. It's a very healthy mixed bag of "types" of information, and seems to be all-but-exhaustive and, for the most part, "seeing things from an accurate angle". I would recommend it to one and all, if for no other reason than it's just beautiful. I can say more about it when I've read it fully, but (as if there was any doubt) no effort was spared in making a sincere and thorough world companion.

    Once I'm home from Fan Fest, I'll go page by page and see how many of our concerns have been knocked off forsooth.

    I look forward to getting back to archiving what things are known / might be known more accurately with a bit of elbow grease / are vague / are intangible. The pre-Fest boredom was a good opportunity to get back into vague future prediction for fun and (lack of) profit ... but, as usual, not my forte. I understand what is much better than what will be, lol.
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    Hey, I got the core of the Rejoining right!

    The Ascians each being from a different world was... predictable enough. I had at least figured they were at least each stationed there... perhaps they're all fractured, distorted images of one original being? Which would explain how Lahabrea and Igeyorhm were able to fuse into the Ascian Prime... but I digress. There's no relation between their numbered Reflection and their Zodiac sign number, so no Ivalice correlation! Stop bringing Ivalice up, please...

    Voidsent confirmed to be warped former denizens of the Thirteenth. Nice job breaking it, Iggy! Voidsent are easier to deal with than the fracking God of Darkness... well, assuming He is malevolent as we've been led to believe... so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Voidsent confirmed to be warped former denizens of the Thirteenth. Nice job breaking it, Iggy!
    So would that make the proper term for warped former denizens of the First world (the Warriors of Darkness) be Lightsent?
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    Oooh, shiney...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pells View Post
    So would that make the proper term for warped former denizens of the First world (the Warriors of Darkness) be Lightsent?
    The First was merely being flooded, Hydaelyn at the end of 3.4 sent Minfillia there to act as a syphon or something along those lines to soak up all that positive aether to restore some of Hydaelyn's strength. So the First wouldn't produce "Lightsent."
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    I am very pleased. A lot of my speculation and desires for Garlean related lore has proven to be along the right lines.
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    Well, I'm eager to see if this other Galvus person is as sexy as his Emperor relative.
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    My only question for people with the Lore book right now: who the hell is Salina? Probably not a detail deemed worthy of elaboration, but it has bugged me for nearly two years now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    who the hell is Salina?
    The section of Salina (assuming that it's the only mention of her, haven't read everything yet) says that she was descended from Xande the First, survived the quakes, and watched the fall of technology lead to utter chaos. When she realized that the Crystal Tower was not gone, just buried, she realized that someone with a blood connection to Xande's pact would always be needed should the Cloud of Darkness need to be put in check. Entrusting the bloodline to a trusted ally via what little technology still functioned, it's still seen in the G tribe of Seekers of the Sun today.

    A little more specifically worded, but probably not as specific as you're looking for, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    she was descended from Xande the First, survived the quakes, and watched the fall of technology lead to utter chaos. When she realized that the Crystal Tower was not gone, just buried, she realized that someone with a blood connection to Xande's pact would always be needed should the Cloud of Darkness need to be put in check. Entrusting the bloodline to a trusted ally via what little technology still functioned, it's still seen in the G tribe of Seekers of the Sun today.

    A little more specifically worded, but probably not as specific as you're looking for, lol.
    I mean, it confirms my suspicion that she was of the "waning" royal blood that was (allegedly) responsible for Allag's pre-Xande-Zombie decline to begin with, and therefore of suspect authority when it comes to determining what's best for people, and presents the possibility that G'raha was grossly misinterpreting the wishes of his ancestors by sealing himself inside if all they really wanted was for someone to nullify the pact (which Doga and Unei did without him). Whether any of this has any bearing on the future is anyone's guess (with Eureka on the horizon, maybe?). My naive side wants to believe that Darklander's parting words were some kind of foreshadowing, but probably not.

    With that sorta cleared up, I'm also wondering if they've set something in stone about the cause and nature of that initial decline, since Doga and Unei say it was a combination of weak royalty and the prosperity brought by the Tower causing actual, recognizable problems in the Empire, but G'raha's NOAH reports refuse to specify, and his actions at the end only work if you disregard Doga and Unei's explanation (not to mention the "this door can only be opened by the royal blood" plot point verified by no less than three sources, which just means that opening it otherwise is the same as eliminating the stated necessity of preserving the royal blood to begin with). I'm sure there are ways to sort it out without some sort of ancient Allagan conspiracy theory (which would still be a neat plot for an expansion), but there's nothing like that in game.
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