A12 savage World first 3 days after patch

[Bourne_Endeavor]

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Honestly, I feel three difficulties would be a mistake. It's essentially another tier to repeat the same four fights. What I would rather see is two additional fights added and the difficulty scale upward as you process. An example of that might be:

Alexander 1-2 = Equivalent to what we have now
Alexander 3-4 = Scaled up, though once again, similar to the current structure
Alexander 5-6 = Hard mode Primal equivalent or perhaps slightly above
Savage 1-2 = Maybe slightly above what we have now (As I haven't stepped into A9S yet. I can't say how easy it actually is from personal experience)
Savage 3-4 = Extreme Primal equivalent
Savage 5-6 = Closer to Gordias/Midas, though still more forgiving

That's only a rough outline, however I do think having the difficulty more noticeably progress would help than just adding a third tier of the same four bosses. I think putting expectations at hard mode Primals or a little above that for normal mode isn't asking much.

[Pasquale]

There is no such thing as exclusive content for hardcores and casuals or midcores...
Progress my friend, progress!
After alex normal there is nothing than savage to progress.

Futhermore, you sound like everyone after your static is softcore static, so once you cleared and then others cleared it means all can clear it?!
Get real and stop dreaming please!

Man here we are discussing the fact that Savage looks like a Normal + 1 a9s is EQUAL to a9s with little more damage lol

[Bourne_Endeavor]

There is already Alexander Normal for people to experience story, there is no need for savage to have high clear rates, normal already has them.
Even if savage had 1% clear rates it wouldn't matter considering everyone has the gear and saw the story, I thought that was the reason why we added story mode. As someone who subscribes only for raids (A4s, A8s kept me subscribed till the end of the patch) I am seriously disappointed.

Actually, it does. 1% basically means the devs are wasting their time with Savage at such a high difficulty spike. While I am a little disappointed myself since I eventually hoped to jump into the insane challenge, I can appreciate why they opted to move away from it.. From a developer perspective, the casual to midcore playerbase is who you cater to. Having attempted twice now to favor an intense challenge, the clear rates were simply abysmal overall. You cannot have content being so massively underutilized. How many of us make fun of Diadem or LoV being complete flops? Although more popular than either, one could make an argument Savage itself didn't fair much better because virtually no one touched it. At least if we go by the unofficial census. I wish Square would release their own data just to see how many people did clear.

Nonetheless, it remains up in the air whether Savage climbs back up come 4.0. Either way, they needed an "easy" tier to reinvigorate a raid scene on life support.

[Pasquale]

If we follow what you say , Savage mode should be completly abolished since 20% of the total players maybe will try it , considering the fact that 80% are completly casuals who likes glamours and other things but not to raid . Only 20% of the players are gonna try it? No worth abolished is that good for you?

[IllyriaKnotfred]

"Nonetheless, it remains up in the air whether Savage climbs back up come 4.0. Either way, they needed an "easy" tier to reinvigorate a raid scene on life support."

This is exactly the issue that was at hand. These people can keep spouting anything they want off about whats best for the game. They are wrong. By trying (and I do say trying, because they either complain its too easy or too hard) to appease the tiny (obscenely tiny) population of people with a mindset like them- SE basically killed the raid scene. You guys talk about how people will quit if they clear content too quickly? What game are you even playing? Never, and i mean EVER, have I heard in game (where most players are by the way, only a tiny part of the player base even looks at the forums, let alone posts in them) someone say anything along the lines "oooooh, my god. It just sucks so bad that it only took us X time to clear this, get some nice loot and have fun". What did I constantly hear complaints about? The complete polar opposite. Peoples statics breaking up, transferring servers, friendships on the rocks, FCs in turmoil, drama everywhere. This is what happens when the only endgame content available (NORMAL DOES NOT COUNT) caters to only a small minuscule population of the playerbase. SE needed to make the raid tier like this to do damage control, and bring life back to the raiding scene before 4.0 comes along and they can decide what the long term goals will be.

[Pasquale]

Look , there is another thread of a guy with a MIDCORE static complaining how the savage is too easy even for them now.. Nothing more to say

[Greedalox]

Look , there is another thread of a guy with a MIDCORE static complaining how the savage is too easy even for them now.. Nothing more to say

I'm a little disturbed that you think that making a second thread when a perfectly good discussion is happening here makes you right.

Nothing more to say.

[Pasquale]

I'm a little disturbed that you think that making a second thread when a perfectly good discussion is happening here makes you right.

Nothing more to say.

What do you mean o.o

[Greedalox]

What do you mean o.o

You're bringing up the other thread and claiming that the discussion is over with "Nothing more to say" as if a second thread (Where the highest liked comment in that one too is opposed to your claims, if that has any weight) makes you right. I could run off and make a new thread saying the opposite but that wouldn't make me right either. That's not quite how it works.

[Pasquale]

I'm a little disturbed that you think that making a second thread when a perfectly good discussion is happening here makes you right.

Nothing more to say.

Lool maybe u mean that's me doing another post?? Go check the history of the guy who made that thread , u are completly disturbed if u think that's me ( he has also post in things i don't have any interest lol)