DF Penalty from withdrawing from a party in progress should be removed

[Fynlar]

I must admit, I'm of the opposite feeling. Personally, I believe the penalty isn't enough (it should be say a 72 hour penalty, no, I'm serious). Oh and this includes getting kicked from a duty (will be lifted if you can prove to the GMs that you were kicked through no fault of your own). And if you go offline for a decent period of time in duty it auto-kicks and applies the penalty. Maybe also make it so if you go offline multiple times, after going offline for the n'th time, auto-kicked and penalised. Same for if you're AFK for a period of time. As well as it being made clear to the group through the message system if someone is refusing to engage in the battle with mobs, you should kick them for AFK.

I do agree that 30 minutes isn't enough of a deterrent to troll behavior, but your post lost merit with those bolded statements. Not that it matters, because GMs aren't going to want to have to deal with the endless "player disputes" that would result from changes like that and therefore they won't be made to begin with.

I wonder if you realize that sometimes people actually legitimately lose their internet connections through no fault of their own. I also wonder what makes you think these people deserve to lose their DF privileges for 72 hours as a result.

[Deus-ExMachina]

This is not true. You only do not get penalized if the group is still not full.

Penalty for ditching a group is solely dependent on whether or not the group had all of its members. If you join inprog and the party is back up to 4/4 as a result, you will be penalized if you leave.

My experience is different. When Palace of the Dead was released and I got matched in progress on foor 49 (there was no checkbox for in progess anyway and joining in progress on that floor happend a lot to me) I immediately left the group and most of the time we were full and never did I receive any form of punishment. I do not know if potd is an exception but it matches groups through df so the rules should be the same because I did get punished once for declining the invite itself but not for leaving full groups after I joined.

[Jim_Berry]

No thank you. You want to leave and not help the party you signed up for then you deserve a penalty.

This, a million times over. What's the point in using the "join in progress" if you will just leave? I'm honest when I say that I joined MANY groups and we cleared...with new people there...or after waiting for more to join.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

My experience is different. When Palace of the Dead was released and I got matched in progress on foor 49 (there was no checkbox for in progess anyway and joining in progress on that floor happend a lot to me) I immediately left the group and most of the time we were full and never did I receive any form of punishment. I do not know if potd is an exception but it matches groups through df so the rules should be the same because I did get punished once for declining the invite itself but not for leaving full groups after I joined.

PotD went by whatever you had set for the regular duty finder.

[alimdia]

This is not true. You only do not get penalized if the group is still not full.

Penalty for ditching a group is solely dependent on whether or not the group had all of its members. If you join inprog and the party is back up to 4/4 as a result, you will be penalized if you leave.

No, this is not true, you don't get penalized if you leave after joining a group in progress, go try it if you want. Since you don't know the circumstances in the new group SE doesn't force you to stay when you go in progress.


To clarify:

If you enter a duty normally from the start, you can only leave without penalty if the party is not full.

If you enter a duty in progress you can leave without penalty anytime you want regardless if the party is full or not.

[loreleidiangelo]

Back when I still played this game, I used to queue IP Wiping Cities for fun. Sometimes I'd ask what happened ("last healer was bad/ragequit" were the most frequent responses I'd get), but most of the time I never bothered cuz eh, I usually found out pretty quickly whether the group was terrible or not.

The kicker, though? I WANTED terrible groups. Weeping City is absolutely a place where, barring a few mechanics, a super-good healer can totally carry their group, and I loved salvaging terrible runs from the brink of vote abandon, while flexing my reaction times and healer muscle to do so. I'd be rolling in praise and comms at the end, all for something as simple as not wigging out on the fact that people sometimes aren't very good at the game and that can lead to problems once in a while.

tl;dr OP give me all your awful IP runs I'd love to try and salvage them instead of put them in the queue dumpster as is your preference.

[Celef]

Can we, at least get some pomanders that change us into healing or tanking creatures ? I get the feeling of wanting to leave when it's last floors and 4 DPS :/

[Evangela]

What if this is the case?

https://www.facebook.com/gamingvid/v...7300500318885/

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Can we, at least get some pomanders that change us into healing or tanking creatures ? I get the feeling of wanting to leave when it's last floors and 4 DPS :/

Unless your party is braindead, you can easily clear the dungeon with 4 DPS. Or you can start your progress as a healer/tank next time. Queue times would be shorter if more people were to heal and tank.

[Celef]

Unless your party is braindead, you can easily clear the dungeon with 4 DPS. Or you can start your progress as a healer/tank next time. Queue times would be shorter if more people were to heal and tank.

Used to go healer but now i want my second main's weapon, am I not allowed to ? ^^"