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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    However, the backstory has phrased it as "the beast tribes of Meracydia" over and over when it comes to the Warring Triad; ne'er a mention of the wandering races being involved. Could be a false lead; could bit a bit of forgotten history.
    What is a "beast tribe"? Who's frame of reference is it that has been retold down the ages?
    To make a point by example, our own history is littered with examples of European settlers referring to natives as savage and uncivilised races, human or no.
    Similarly, it's quite a Garlean Thing to refer to the Ixal etc as "beastmen", implying that they are of lesser civility. This was a bit of a thematic in v1.0 that hasn't been re-explored as much as it could have.

    And so I wonder, could the Allagans have referred to progenitors of the Miqo'te as beastmen? In fact, where did the Miqo'te even come from? I'm yet to see a single Allagan that fit's that description...
    ...except one.
    But they're a descendant of Allag, and have royal blood sufficient to operate the Crystal Tower, and not a Hyur.


    Oh gosh, I'm heading down the rabbit hole again. Help!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catapult View Post
    What is a "beast tribe"? Who's frame of reference is it that has been retold down the ages?
    To make a point by example, our own history is littered with examples of European settlers referring to natives as savage and uncivilised races, human or no.
    Similarly, it's quite a Garlean Thing to refer to the Ixal etc as "beastmen", implying that they are of lesser civility. This was a bit of a thematic in v1.0 that hasn't been re-explored as much as it could have.

    And so I wonder, could the Allagans have referred to progenitors of the Miqo'te as beastmen? In fact, where did the Miqo'te even come from? I'm yet to see a single Allagan that fit's that description...
    ...except one.
    But they're a descendant of Allag, and have royal blood sufficient to operate the Crystal Tower, and not a Hyur.


    Oh gosh, I'm heading down the rabbit hole again. Help!!!
    Wait what?
    I'm confused, there is a cleat differece between the spoken races and the beast tribe.
    Whats your poit about miqote progenitors?

    About your other post, I would say NO. There is a clear differece between Derplander and Darklander, we have talked about this already a lot of times, they arent the same person.


    Another thing I want to add is why are we talking about new voice acting. This is old history guys, we already the new voice on Urianger and on eveyone else.
    Arent we going to far off topic with this comments that had nothing to do eith 3.4 at all?
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    Last edited by Frederick22; 09-18-2016 at 11:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catapult View Post
    And so I wonder, could the Allagans have referred to progenitors of the Miqo'te as beastmen? In fact, where did the Miqo'te even come from? I'm yet to see a single Allagan that fit's that description...
    ...except one.
    But they're a descendant of Allag, and have royal blood sufficient to operate the Crystal Tower, and not a Hyur.


    Oh gosh, I'm heading down the rabbit hole again. Help!!!
    There is absolutely no significance whatsoever to the only non-Garlean we've met who can prove direct descent from Allag being a Miqo'te. None. Whatsoever. At all. It's a total coincidence with no bearing on the lore. And it's definitely never coming up again. Ever. These are not the droids you're looking for.

    But seriously, until something happens in the MSQ to prove otherwise, the Crystal Tower (as we experienced it) is entirely non-canon, Cid and co. were simply elsewhere between 2.0 and 2.55 working on Manacutter tech, and Krile has taken on any future plot importance that aforementioned nonentity could have had in a universe where aforementioned nonentity actually ever existed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catapult View Post
    But they're a descendant of Allag, and have royal blood sufficient to operate the Crystal Tower, and not a Hyur.
    Except he wasn't the only one to have claim of allagan heritage. We all remember the last guy who was apparently of allagan decent to the point his family had access to knowledge about Dalamud that no one else had.
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