Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
People did coil for the story and and there was only one difficulty so this got people raiding. Now that there is normal mode people don't need to do savage and the raid has lost its appeal to people because people can do normal mode and the gear looks exactly the same. People find different things fun. Some enjoy raiding for the loot and some enjoy it for challenge or even both. You can't say they were not having fun purely because they stopped because loot was bad because maybe they enjoy getting amazing epic loot from raids.
But the "epic loot" is still possible. It was still the highest ilvl obtainable all through 3.2 and the weapon in A8S is still generally better than anything else you can get. Alex offers the same reward structure as Coil. Raiders lost nothing. If people do normal and say "good enough" they probably didn't enjoy raiding, they just wanted to see the story. Alex normal is a good thing for that reason. It makes it so people don't have to do something they don't enjoy but are able to see things they do, e.g story.

Raiders lost nothing with Alex normal. Everyone else gained something with Alex normal. The reason Alex Savage is failing is simply because people aren't enjoying it. Savage mode dug its own grave.