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    Enkidoh's Avatar
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Why? Because not everyone is interested in endgame that makes the game dead too? Or story? Or doing <insertxxxxcontent here>? There is many different things a player can do in this game - not everyone has to be interested in exactly the same things or doing everything available. Just because they choose to not do some form of content, does not mean this game is failing or is an accurate indication of player subscriptions. Hell, I dislike PvP and raiding, yet does that mean my sub is not to be countered in this? Because your arguement pretty much says because I don't do endgame it's therefore not important.

    But anyway, I've said my piece, I'm leaving this arguement now. This Chicken-Little mentality has been around since before the game was launched, but it simply is not true. The game is not dying. Take from it what you will.
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    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Teryaani's Avatar
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    Sonja Djt-bidit
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    Seraph
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    Why? Because not everyone is interested in endgame that makes the game dead too? Or story? Or doing <insertxxxxcontent here>? There is many different things a player can do in this game - not everyone has to be interested in exactly the same things or doing everything available. Just because they choose to not do some form of content, does not mean this game is failing or is an accurate indication of player subscriptions. Hell, I dislike PvP and raiding, yet does that mean my sub is not to be countered in this? Because your arguement pretty much says because I don't do endgame it's therefore not important.
    My wife and I haven't touched the storyline from Antitower on or anything endgame related (even the new 24 man raids) because of burnout. So you're right, this isn't an indicator of game death. We've been doing older content and short term events instead.
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    Insanity is a gradual process, don't rush it - Ford Prefect

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    Eul's Avatar
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Oh my server is rank 4th for raid progression...
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    Moomba33's Avatar
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 100
    Well, looks like the Midas clears are a bit better than the Gordias ones were (I'm remembering a 5%(?) clear rate for the Chocobo server in a similar survey).
    I'm curious if there's any similar data for Coil back when it was endgame.

    As for the overall numbers I'm not really surprised. I remember 3.1 having a a shockingly low clear rate presumably since it didn't gate any content when it was first released. Half of the game's population not being at endgame doesn't really worry me.

    Edit: I think it's a fair assessment of the population as well. If anything it's overestimating active players. I have 4 characters that count as active due to logging in on my 3 lowbie alts for seasonal events and getting a minion from the Yo-Kai quest.
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    Last edited by Moomba33; 08-17-2016 at 09:35 AM.

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    Player Lexia's Avatar
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    Lexia Lightress
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 86
    Has SE ever actually said how many active paying subs there are or do they only boost about the 5 million registered accounts?
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    Remus's Avatar
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    Robas Kebas
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    Odin
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Has SE ever actually said how many active paying subs there are or do they only boost about the 5 million registered accounts?
    They have never said how many active players there are in the game that i'm aware off.
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    Player Vantol's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Vantol Aviner
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    Cerberus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Has SE ever actually said how many active paying subs there are or do they only boost about the 5 million registered accounts?
    They said once "2.7 million players", but it was proven to be a complete lie with actual number 600k~800k (by that time). And after that SE stopped giving any numbers.
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    Nixi Sarcia
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    Has SE ever actually said how many active paying subs there are or do they only boost about the 5 million registered accounts?
    They have never released sub numbers even to us investors. Only registered accounts and even that we are unable to determine if its actually accounts registered or characters created as they like to dance around with their wording.
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 1
    Looovely, statistics!

    First thing to note: This is character, not player data, because unofficial censi cannot tell whether a character belongs to another account or not. The data is roughly in line with previous such censi (Just google Lucky bancho for reference): About 500k characters, raid completion in the single digits (pre-nerf/echo), completion rate of MSQ decreasing.

    Interesting: 3.3 has by far the biggest completion loss of all the MSQ phases - I blame Nidhogg and the endless fetch quest at the end.
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    Lee Keramory
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Sorry but even assuming players could hide their data on lodestone, you honestly think enough are (or even use/care about the bloody thing) blocking their characters to make a difference? I find it highly ... Highly unlikely.
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