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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    LOL But it already is attempting to clone wow in certain ways: the quests, smn is a clone of the warlock job (its a mix of the Demonology and Affliction Warlock), the combat is similar only 14 flat out lights up the boxes to tell you the next thing to use, or how bout the fact that this games own producer said to look to wow for inspiration and had the dev team play wow..hmm WHAT ELSE?? the black mage is a copy of WoW's Balance Druid from Cataclysm, the lock outs are the same format, the currencies are set up exactly like WoW's format, the fact they have Hard Mode dungeons while they change unlike WoW's Heroic/Mythic Dungeons they serve the same purpose and that game old as the hills.
    Yeap FFXIV is a complete wannabe clone of WOW. I wish Yoshi P had tried to be more original. SMN being a complete wannabe poor mans version of Warlock from WOW
    is why i stopped playing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcanary View Post
    Yeap FFXIV is a complete wannabe clone of WOW. I wish Yoshi P had tried to be more original. SMN being a complete wannabe poor mans version of Warlock from WOW
    is why i stopped playing it.
    WoW is a worse game tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windi View Post
    WoW is a worse game tho.
    ...Is it, technically? It's certainly more dated graphically, but it has a much larger arsenal of features and mechanics. Combat is simpler across most specs, but it also has fewer dead or midstep-only abilities. Beyond that is subjective.

    And if neither seems imaginative in some specific regard (SMN / Warlock), is it really worth arguing which is less so?

    Quote Originally Posted by Windi View Post
    ...all criticism is subjective.
    If that were true, criticism would be pointless. Criticism, like trying to theorize over a phenomena between a team of researchers, which aims to be ultimately objective, is simply susceptible to logical error or leaps, miscommunication, and wrongly assumed criteria. Our criteria may differ at a certain level, but even they stem first from either logic or supposition based on the combination of more basic criteria and our experiences. It's "loosely correlative" more than it is "subjective", and as experience increases (number of concepts explored and impressions made; or, others' impressions heard, and the connections between them made) that differentiation based on initial experiences shrinks. Where a given criteria is borrowed, or supposed, our limited but still diverse ranges of experience can carry a consequent (but not necessarily patterned) range of understanding (whether we knew what the guy was talking about completely, merely connected with some parts, or not at all but assumed it was correct) that can undermine argumentation, and so forth, but that is even less "subjective", so to speak. Just as you said the game was worse because it strikes you as boring, there are certain elements that caused that impression that are likely to have a similar effect on a range of other players based on that combination of elements against their range and criteria for perceiving the content of the game and its quality. If there was no basis by which others might share that notion, would there be any value at all in stating it? And yet, it's in decently wide agreement, and carries certain implications as a result.
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    Player Windi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    ...Is it, technically? It's certainly more dated graphically, but it has a much larger arsenal of features and mechanics. Combat is simpler across most specs, but it also has fewer dead or midstep-only abilities. Beyond that is subjective.

    And if neither seems imaginative in some specific regard (SMN / Warlock), is it really worth arguing which is less so?
    The game just strikes me as more boring imo. At least everyone looks beautiful in FFXIV~

    Also all criticism is subjective.
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