Make FFXIV more like FFXI and less like WoW!

[Velhart]

Yea but registered account don't really matter regardless who they belong to, from trying to search for XI account information I couldn't find any numbers for registered accounts only the amount of paid subs they had, which to me sounds like XI put more emphasis on actual subbed account and just not registered like XIV. XIV all like hey come play this game cause it has 5 million registered accounts when in fact less then a million of those accounts are actually retained paid subs. Which is why I said registered accounts don't show or prove how popular a game is, so if they are including RMT in it they just using that to their advantage to make the game seem more popular then what it really is.

It is easy to misinterpret the message when they say registered accounts. It is not saying that 6 million people are playing. It is saying that 6 million people have tried the game. Saying that a high amount of people have looked upon your way for an MMO experience gets someone into that genre interested. I can't speak on behalf of their marketing company, but I believe both this game and WoW are trying to sell it from that point. They are not saying 6m people are currently playing our game.

Also people should really stop comparing sub numbers from FFXI and FFXIV's. You have to compare how many played MMO's then to now. MMO count back then was not high till WoW came in. It is way too hard to compare. Comparing from times when running something like FFXI was a task in itself with the internet in it's earlier days and not many machines that could run it. Was luxurious to not be on dial up. There are too many factors to compare the two.

[Keramory]

Question about the subs. Do you think the fact that it's this day in age contributed to the amount of users Ffxiv has? Ffxi didn't come out in the Stone age but I wonder if older technology and pc playing in general made a difference. Honestly (graphics/ui aside) if ffxi and Ffxiv came out at the same time (now or then) which do you think would be more played? Ffxiv as it is now or ffxi in its prime?

[Sandpark]

I want to see some revamped/reworked XI concepts here as well. But I think if both released now in their prime. XIV would still sale more boxes with rotational subs. XI would probably have less box buyers but subscribers wouldn't sub/unsub as much.

[Dzian]

They were not the same team nor did FFXI win any awards. It was largely considered an average MMO of its time and never rose above a niche audience.

Ffxi actually won quite a few awards. It won the grand prize for CESA. A few game of the year and gold awards. A few more minor awards. And is even listed quite highly in the most successful mmos of all time.

It's audience was not really niche either. It's a game from a time where the industry was much smalier. And back then having somewhere in the region 3/4 of a million active players was considered huge.

[Remus]

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I don't know... I mean before they said join over 5 million adventurers. When I see that kinda indicates they are trying to say come play with 5 million of other players. Maybe i'm just interpreting it wrong.

[Alaltus]

I don't know... I mean before they said join over 5 million adventurers. When I see that kinda indicates they are trying to say come play with 5 million of other players. Maybe i'm just interpreting it wrong.

Yeah thats how adverts often work, they come up with a figure that they can legally use to misdirect people into thinking their product is more popular than it actually is. The number of buyers of the game are much bigger than active subscribers so it sounds more impressive.

[Kaurie]

I don't know... I mean before they said join over 5 million adventurers. When I see that kinda indicates they are trying to say come play with 5 million of other players. Maybe i'm just interpreting it wrong.

Yeah it sucks that they mislead players so much with that. I wish they would keep giving active sub numbers.

Imagine if WoW did this and said "Come join over 100 million adventurers" (though it's probably more than that, 100 mil was hit in 2014).

[Reinha]

Yeah it sucks that they mislead players so much with that. I wish they would keep giving active sub numbers.

Imagine if WoW did this and said "Come join over 100 million adventurers" (though it's probably more than that, 100 mil was hit in 2014).

I recall the number 100 million being WoW accounts, both free trial and subscribed. They don't count registered users who bought the game like this game does. I wouldn't be surprised if only 50 million or less of those had actually bought and truly played WoW.

Source.

[Kaurie]

I recall the number 100 million being WoW accounts, both free trial and subscribed. They don't count registered users like this game does. I wouldn't be surprised if only 50 million of those had actually bought WoW.

Ah that could be. I mean imo, they are both completely useless numbers. I only care about current subscriber numbers.