Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[Charismatic]

Which is it? You want to have someone PL your crafting levels, but you don't want to craft? I don't get it. Why have a craft at level 50 if crafting is boring to you?

If you're not going to craft, then fine. Don't make ridiculous demands of the game for something you weren't going to do anyway, Mr. Smarty.

Because obviously if I had Lv50 crafting I could just craft the couple of things I need rather than having to spend hours upon hours doing it..? Common sense. I only said that I would love if it could happen, not that I hope it will or anything of the sort. Stop being such a jackass and use the brain you were born with.

Yes, again, I would love having the benefits of a Lv50 craft without having to grind it to cap.
No, I am not asking for that.

Figured I'd say it again and break it down since you seem to have a few issues understanding basic concepts.

[Denmo]

I'm just trying to understand why you'd want to say that in the first place, but I think the brain I was born with has put it together. I'm sorry you don't enjoy crafting - I do. I've been enjoying it more than ever since the update. IMO it would ultimately be a waste of a game if anyone could get a craft or job or class to level 50 with minimal effort. People should feel accomplished for what they've done, and get rewarded for it from players like you, who can simply buy the gear they don't want to spend the time to make themselves.

And that's all I've got to say about that.

[Charismatic]

Try reading the post I was responding to if you want to understand why I'd say that in the first place. Once again, use that noggin. It'll all come to you if you just think.
This is not a difficult concept.

[Brainriot]

Not to mention with PLing a lot of players will reach r50 without even knowing how to play half their roles in battle, which skills to use in determined situations or even how each works.

[Alkaiser]

LOL wow amazing thing to see when people are too lazy to play a video game, I still don't understand why you guys play a MMORPG= massive multiplayer online role playing game if you do not want to play it obviously.

lazy players like the ones defending this are the same ones that want:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ex.-auto-50%29

this is real sad when people just want a "i win" button added to a game.

heck lets just:

1)pay for a movie ticket and go in and watch the credits of the movie
2) start up any sports team and just tell the other team that you win
3)lets just open a book and skip to the last sentence and say you read the book.

i can go on and on with this. PL i don't mind as much if they stay out of the party similar to ff11 where they only heal you and thats it, its bad but its not as bad as this game where a max level guy just stomps all over the game and you just sit on your ass and gain massive.....let me change that word enormous/game breaking amount of xp.

example:
5 of my linkshell members already hit 3 class to 50 within 2-3 days of power level 1-40 and 40-50 on raptor party. And this goes on for a lot of people around the server i know personally.

when you guys are all level 50 with every single class i would like to as you what will you be spending your tme on then? because apparently you guys want to do some "endgame content".

[Rinsui]

Btw: sooner or later it will affect crafters as well. Who needs gear for a PL? ^.^/

[Yellowbluebus]

Alright, forewarning this might sound a little repetitive since I did not read the entire thread, but at least a few pages to get the general effect of where people were going with the topic. I completely support the "powerleveling" idea, and here is why:

I don't see it as "powerleveling" persay, more like I can have fun with my low level friends that just joined the game, help them out and actually get a minor amount of exp for myself in the process. I like the fact that they get a large benefit, and can play with me sooner than having to wait 15 years for them to level on their own.

Yes, the fact that levequests are stackable now helps with the fact that all of my friends have jobs and can only play on the weekends, but there is only so many quests that they can do and only so much exp that they can gain without my help. It would still be a very long time before we could play together and that is just not enjoyable.

While getting exp very quickly can be seen as "cheating" I really don't think so. It's repetitive and boring for the person PLing; it makes them work for the levels of their friends. Nobody would do this for no benefit whatsoever, so I really don't think it's going to be exploited, unless people will pay massive amounts of gil to be PLed and I really don't think there's anything wrong with that either considering it's just a basic IN GAME transaction (but let's not derail the topic here).

To sum:
- Getting PLed will not happen all the time, it's rigorous, tedious, and mind numbing for the person giving.
- It helps get your friends to higher level so that you can play and enjoy this game with them.
- It will most likely not be exploited due to facet number one, and if it is botted, SE will deal with that idea.
- It benefits the PL as well as those being PLed by giving minor amounts of exp (I gained 2 levels on my level 33 THM PLing my friends)
- It helps mentor new people in the game with a veteran who might share some knowledge with them while PLing (ie. this aggros, that doesn't, suggestions for party places when the PL session is over etc.) **this depends on the person, but I have found most people to be helpful**

Therefore, I don't see the problem with PLing. Thank you for reading, and I'm sorry once again if this was at all repetitive.

[DrekeLamorte]

Man, all I can say is if that's your idea of fun, and in the doubtful scenario that the majority agrees, then this game won't be for me. I said it before, I'll take my money elsewhere when the time comes, if this remains.

Because if it remained as such, there wouldn't be a point to even having levels. It would be an entirely new genre of game. And this new genre wouldn't be one I enjoy. If FFXIV becomes this in the end, I'll find myself a "classic style MMO" because I'm too old for the new generation that doesn't want to work for their progression in a MMO.

I don't want to play an action-style game where time spend on leveling doesn't matter and gear/player skill determines all. Sure, that's fine for endgame, but endgame comes at the- Oh, wait for it- END. Do I need to define "end?" Endgame, as in, the options available to you after reaching the END of what you were progressing for.

But no, these concepts must be becoming too antiquated for the new generation to accept. I'm too old school. Maybe this will not be the MMO for me.

So what you're trying to say is... Your idea of fun is a time-sink to reach max level? While that's an important part of the RPG genre, and shouldn't be completely removed from it, you're taking this way too personal. And if it's not something your okay with, you're free to quit anytime. Yoshi-P stated that he doesn't consider it Power Leveling to enjoy doing things with your friends, regardless of level.

Bite your tongue, and walk away. You're not going to convince anyone who makes decisions.


On a completely unrelated note, a friend of mine speaks and reads fluent japanese, and the english boards are the only ones throwing tantrums and whining about this and that. Learn from them. Take some time to understand the game in it's entirety to formulate an opinion before you 'speak'. Otherwise, your ramblings are just speaking volumes to the community of your mental shortcomings as a player.


@YellowBlueBus: Agreed. Another point to mention, PLing is a perfect way to earn exp when you're focused on spiritbinding. R40 Leves anyone?

[Chain]

Btw: sooner or later it will affect crafters as well. Who needs gear for a PL? ^.^/

Gear still doesn't matter, hate to break it to you.

[Denmo]

Gear still doesn't matter, hate to break it to you.

I think that's his point.

And since the patch 1.19, yes it does.