Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[akisato]

I got though the 1st 5 pages and was like ive read enough, some of us here have this old FF11 mindset where lvling had some kind of meaning but lvling has no meaning it's just a means to an end not an end itself if it was we would not have had so many peeved there was nothing to do at 50. also you may not think this but slow lvling hurts the game say i want to bring my fiends in to this game and im already 50 if they want to play with me they now got to lvl to 50 with out me or i could just PL them some might say "Just put in a lvl sync" but why make it harder on those who have been playing the game?

[Dargoth_Draconia]

Okay, this seriously needs to be fixed immediately.

Now, before you all say, "Oh come on dude, why you gotta crap on something so awesome," honestly think about it. The consequences will be a domino effect that just might force SE to do a server rollback.

Here's an example: I just got 25,000EXP in less than five minutes. From level 24 to 25 with a friend killing and chaining crabs for me in my party.

The above is far far too extreme. Given these possibilities, and even more if she killed something at a higher level, everyone will exploit the crap out of this and no one will have a job below level 40 within a month. Do we really want this? Do we want to make the journey to cap so utterly pointless?

I'm really concerned for the future of this game if this is what SE intended in this patch! This is bad, really bad. Please, SE, let's get an emergency maintenance and fix this before it is too late!

Quick somebody call the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHMBULANCE again.

Don't abuse the system if you are going to complain about it you hypocrite. I like the new system but I do agree maybe the EXP is a tad bit high. YoshiP said he wanted it this way on purpose, I guess you don't bother to read the patch notes and other forum posts by the director. He wants the new players to level fast though too fast would be bad, but he wants the new players to be able to skip the grind for the most part so they can start doing content with their friends. Instead of getting shafted since the game has been out for a year most players have like 4-5 classes at 50. People in my LS literally don't have any classes even crafter classes under 30 or 40. How would a noob ever catch up to that?

I think EXP gains algorithm should be adjusted but I would still like to see high exp gains on chain 5+ maybe a cap of like 800 EXP or something like that. This is FFXI, this game isn't hardcore timesink in the same fashion as XI and that is the approach they are taking it is a very casual friendly game and they are staying on course with that train of thought since the beginning of the game.

That's absolutely 100% untrue lol. Hell, in FFXI powerleveling was generally just a mage outside the party tossing heals on the tank.

I don't think the people who have a problem with what's going on now are necessarily completely anti-powerleveling. I know I'm not. But it should be limited at the very least. Level 50 mobs should not give full exp to a level 20 player when a level 50 in their party killed them. It makes no sense and no other MMO does it.

It's not untrue, he said it plain as day that he is completely okay with someone helping their friends level up in that manner. Also you made the exact point that no other MMO does this, that is why it will work.

[Issac]

Quick somebody call the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHMBULANCE again.

Don't abuse the system if you are going to complain about it you hypocrite.

Put some actual effort into reading before slinging insults like that.

I don't want to, that was a test. And the fact that it's this easy is disgusting. It can't stay like this.

You obviously didn't read my next post. Or was it the third? Doesn't matter. Someone else had already said this, and I already responded. For your benefit, I'll say it again. Don't assume I'm a hypocrite.

An LSmate and I simply tested it because we noticed ridiculous XP gains without even trying. So we put it to the test and tried to see just how ridiculous powerleveling was. Do I plan on doing this regularly? No. Do I plan to be complacent with it? Hell no. I mean, come on, chains when a member in your party is 25-30 levels above the mob? This is silly.

[Dargoth_Draconia]

Put some actual effort into reading before slinging insults like that.

Put effort into reading your mindless post before I sling insults? I didn't sling insults I just said don't be a hypocrite. Testing the theory my ass. You probably out there right now grinding away and on the of chance you aren't, well good for you bud. YoshiP intended for it to be that way, though I did agree to some sense and think they should reduce SP gain overall.

Honestly, I doubt the system will stay this way I think it is to just rope people into playing the game til PS3 launches. Then it will most likely be nerfed hard core and be more reasonable. The quick leveling is a big incentive for new people to play and not get bored after logging on and not being able to do anything with his friends because they are all rank 50 all classes above 30 etc. Give the PC players a nice treat and a reason for new players to want to join a game that was dying on its knees. As I said it will probably get fixed down the road so just hang tight and enjoy it while you have it and not complain because of an assumption.

[DeadRiser]

Where are the reps at? I WANT A RESPONSE NOW. I NEED TO KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT RIGHT

[Bahn]

Come on, there needs to be a rep on this subject. Please don't tell me that you think it's okay for something as broken as this to be left in the game. This WILL break the game's economy and render a lot of content worthless.

[Issac]

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...and smaller
...and smaller
...and smaller
...and smaller

to look down upon thee!

How does this add any value to the debate? Is this just an assumption on the character of some? If it is, it is besides the point. The mechanic is glaringly broken.

[Jynx]

I like how people automatically assume those of us against such insane power leveling have some superiority complex over those who are not 50 yet.

For me at least it couldn't be farther from the truth I have one rank 50 and would benifit greatly from such a stupidly broken leveling system but I refuse to use it as such because it cheapens the whole game. I mean why not just start us off at rank 30 if the devs don't want us to even consider being rank 1 for any considerable ammount of time.

I guess someones gonna come in and whine that leveling is nothing but a "Timesink" and it's going to roll downhill from the sheer stupidity of that comment.

[Nanaya]

I remember the people who were clearly powerleveled to 75 in XI, boy were they useful in endgame parties. Oh wait, did I say useful? I meant the exact opposite, they were like a quadriplegic in a triathlon.

Endgame content works because there is party cohesion, communication, and every single member knows their roles and limitations. The DDs know to hold back when hate gets sketchy, the tank knows how to keep the mobs eyes centered onto them, and the mages know proper MP conservation. PLing takes all these principles, and shits on them. After all, why does the tank need to keep hate when the high level can shrug off anything the mob does? Why do the DDs need to hold back if the high level just stomps on the enemy to the point where nothing will make it move off of him? Why do the mages need to worry about anything at all, when the high level is in no threat of dying?

And then of course what happens is they get to a point where they can no longer be feasibly power leveled, and they're utterly incompetent at their job, much to the chagrin of those of us who like to actually work towards a goal, and we find ourselves in a party with them.

I am by no means opposed to all types of PLing, I've been in several Valkurm Dunes parties in the past that only remained afloat because of the high level healer supporting us, but we still needed to kill the mob on our own. Like it is now, not only can the R50 do all the work for the mouthbreathers, they also get 100% rewards for spectating, and maybe successfully poking the monster a couple times. Way to give it the old college try, champ. Instant Gratification XIV will not only piss off those of us who like to put forth effort in leveling, but will also ultimately piss off the ones who cruise control to multiple 50s, only to find there is nothing else really to do for the time being, and stop playing.

I have to give Yoshi and his team the benefit of the doubt and say there is some coding error here, because the fledgling hope I have for this game will not be able to withstand if he seriously thinks leaving things like this is a smart decision.