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    Quote Originally Posted by viewtyjoe View Post
    If people choose to accept, then they are agreeing one way or another. Their ability (or inability) to reason about whether it's a valid kick or not is ancillary to the fact that they are required to make a choice. In nearly two years of playing, I think I've been kicked from a DF group once, maybe twice, and both times I probably deserved it.
    True but that doesn't negate the fact unjust kicks can in fact happen because of it (not the OP but others).

    I'm a team player and I've only been kicked 3 times but two of those were unwarrented.
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    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    True but that doesn't negate the fact unjust kicks can in fact happen because of it (not the OP but others).
    it can, but what you perceive as unjust may well be perfectly justified by others. The state of kick today is, majority rules. So EVEN if you did nothing to deserve a kick you STILL can be kicked just bcause they dont like your glamour or dont like you half naked or you name it. This has been stated several times by GMs in reports that *SE does not mix into players squabbles* and this enters into that section. We all agree at least for most of us that Vote Kick requires an adjustment to avoid jerks to abuse of it like kicking you because a friend has to join, but all in all it boils down to being responsible enough to know when to use it or when not.


    I am totally against this feature I want it out of the way...but if only there were harsher sanctions against those that abuse of it, I would already be happy.

    In this situation, OP is just a self entitled player that thinks he can do whatever he wants when he wants and the rest has just to shut up, welel as it stands, he got corrected and hopefully may learn from it, although I doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    True but that doesn't negate the fact unjust kicks can in fact happen because of it (not the OP but others).

    I'm a team player and I've only been kicked 3 times but two of those were unwarrented.
    My alt was kicked yesterday in Weeping City after 1st boss. No clue why, no wipe, no verbal issues, just clear out of the blue. Sorry but not wasting my time filing a complaint. I was there with a friend so I'll ask her if there was any discussion after. I know the duty, the mechanics and all. The only thing I can fantom is that the group arrow that spawned on me lead to my death and maybe one other but that wasn't my fault if the parties don't group on the icon. The boss was at 1 percent when that happened and i simply respawned. It was late and i was tired, I simply went to bed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    My alt was kicked yesterday in Weeping City after 1st boss. No clue why, no wipe, no verbal issues, just clear out of the blue. Sorry but not wasting my time filing a complaint. I was there with a friend so I'll ask her if there was any discussion after. I know the duty, the mechanics and all. The only thing I can fantom is that the group arrow that spawned on me lead to my death and maybe one other but that wasn't my fault if the parties don't group on the icon. The boss was at 1 percent when that happened and i simply respawned. It was late and i was tired, I simply went to bed.
    Well my 2nd unwarrented (first was the knockback+heavy) was because a BRD didn't want gear competition... Yeah... Well that's the only thing I can fathom with the "We got a MCH" from the BRD and then getting booted barely after starting.

    The ironic thing is that I was gonna pass on the stuff anyway.

    My first kick was ages ago (before the xpac) when I pulled a temper tantrum in the middle of a dungeon run... Would've kicked myself from the group if I was the other members, was totally deserved.
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    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    @underdog

    From what you said you were booted because they didnt want a MCH some consider MCH dps as useless into some places unfortunately
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    @underdog

    From what you said you were booted because they didnt want a MCH some consider MCH dps as useless into some places unfortunately
    Ohh I hadn't considered that you're probably right.

    Well those people called "some" can keep their cruddy (and flat out wrong) opinion and I'll just keep doing my thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    Ohh I hadn't considered that you're probably right.

    Well those people called "some" can keep their cruddy (and flat out wrong) opinion and I'll just keep doing my thing.
    MCH will always be in BRD's shadow.. unless of course SE decides to bring them back to their former glory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norleas View Post
    MCH will always be in BRD's shadow.. unless of course SE decides to bring them back to their former glory.
    We make things go "BOOM!" though, BRD strums a harp goes and "pew pew". I know which one is more awesome.

    Kicking based on job choice is still not justifyable unless said job is so broken it doesn't function (which is a situation a player should never find themselves).
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