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[MaeIsMean]

I was kicked recently for asking a SMN in POTD to switch to Ifrit instead of Garuda because the rest of the group was melee and chasing mobs his pet was knocking back into adds over and over. It was annoying as heck. I wasn't rude about it, I simply asked them to please change because the knockback is annoying for melee. A short time later, i was kicked.

[Youkulm]

I was kicked recently for asking a SMN in POTD to switch to Ifrit instead of Garuda because the rest of the group was melee and chasing mobs his pet was knocking back into adds over and over. It was annoying as heck. I wasn't rude about it, I simply asked them to please change because the knockback is annoying for melee. A short time later, i was kicked.

Who plays with their pet on Sic anyway? Bad SMNs, that's who. May be a generalization but I would have kicked them as well.

[MaeIsMean]

Who plays with their pet on Sic anyway? Bad SMNs, that's who. May be a generalization but I would have kicked them as well.

But they kicked me.... =( I was on my NIN.

[Windi]

From what I've read in this thread so far, I think the entire issue could be solved if people adequately communicated with each other.

This goes both ways. Players should let their own team know about their goals and get to know their team's circumstances (which can be done very quickly), but other players who are on the receiving end of criticism should put their pride aside and listen to advice if what they're doing is harmful to the party, and for this reason I can't really verify that the OP is giving an unbiased view of the story, here.

Like, for all those who kicked other players for having "bad playstyles," did you adequately communicate your expectations or help to correct the issue before pulling the trigger, or did you just make assumptions about your own party and kicked the "bad" players without saying much? If the latter is true, then you are actually part of the problem.

[Windi]

As an aside, there is no such thing as a "bad" playstyle as it's something completely subjective. Sure, some styles won't be as effective in getting the job done, but that depends on popular opinion and the current circumstances at hand, so I highly recommend you guys get out of that mindset.

[FunkyBunch]

As an aside, there is no such thing as a "bad" playstyle as it's something completely subjective. Sure, some styles won't be as effective in getting the job done, but that depends on popular opinion

This is not true. Play Styles that are less effective are bad. There's no popular opinion, if what you're doing makes it take extra time, it's bad. If it makes what you're doing take less time it's good. It's a pretty objective standard and not subject to opinion.

[Windi]

This is not true. Play Styles that are less effective are bad. There's no popular opinion, if what you're doing makes it take extra time, it's bad. If it makes what you're doing take less time it's good. It's a pretty objective standard and not subject to opinion.

Taking extra time is "bad"? I'm sure if you rushed through a chess match, for instance, you'd probably be punished for it. "Bad" and "Good" are inherently subjective terms dependent on the conscientious of a group of people. There is nothing objective about it, and I'd even go on to say that objectivity doesn't truly exist in a medium like games, or anything in society as a whole.

[Talamarie]

This is not true. Play Styles that are less effective are bad. There's no popular opinion, if what you're doing makes it take extra time, it's bad. If it makes what you're doing take less time it's good. It's a pretty objective standard and not subject to opinion.

And this is a shitty answer and a really closed mind style to operate into a community game. Like he said people should communicate.
Would you kick someone because of his job that is less operative for you although it's the only one he maxed so far ?
I have the feeling that i already know the answer.

Personnally when i get into an instance and i want some stuff i ask the team if that wouldn't bother them to leave it to me.
Some agree others don't. But i talked about it and that make it easy and completely understood.

[FunkyBunch]

And this is a shitty answer and a really closed mind style to operate into a community game. Like he said people should communicate.
Would you kick someone because of his job that is less operative for you although it's the only one he maxed so far ?
I have the feeling that i already know the answer.

Personnally when i get into an instance and i want some stuff i ask the team if that wouldn't bother them to leave it to me.
Some agree others don't. But i talked about it and that make it easy and completely understood.

I never said I'd kick someone. I responded to a statement about play style. The other post I agreed with or I would have quoted that one and responded.

[KarstenS]

there is no such thing as a "bad" playstyle as it's something completely subjective.

Not many days ago. Welping city of Mhach. The tombstone fight right before Ozma.

Group A wasn't able to kill the fireballs in time. So the entire alliance recieved massive damage.

At the second set of adds, the fireball exploded again and they did not got the second sets of adds down in time. Result: The entire group A died, because they were locked out of the shield.

There is no "bad" playstyle? Really?