Make FFXIV more like FFXI and less like WoW!

[cakesphere]

Wasn't the reason 1.0 failed because it tried too hard to be like ffxi?

[bass9020]

Wasn't the reason 1.0 failed because it tried too hard to be like ffxi?

It failed because it wasn't finished not because it was like XI. They tried to make it different from XI but had some similar aspects.

[Skivvy]

It failed because it wasn't finished not because it was like XI. They tried to make it different from XI but had some similar aspects.

Also http://gamerescape.com/2014/03/24/fi...how-to-fix-it/

[bass9020]

Also http://gamerescape.com/2014/03/24/fi...how-to-fix-it/

The engine it was made on was not ideal but I still miss my graphics and textures and weight that everything had. Its a shame we can't get them back, at least for people who have PCs that can handle it I don't agree with making all clients equal in that regard.

[JimmyDean]

Thank you for putting into words where i'm coming from! You get it! Skivvy

[Skivvy]

The engine it was made on was not ideal but I still miss my graphics and textures and weight that everything had. Its a shame we can't get them back, at least for people who have PCs that can handle it I don't agree with making all clients equal in that regard.

Same, actually! My PC at the time couldn't handle it, but I loved the way the game looked. The weight was also a really nice touch.

[Velox]

What I don't understand is that...FFXI is still there. It hasn't gone anywhere. Why try to change FFXIV when you can easily just play FFXI instead? Or perhaps play both games?

I've learned from many years in my line of work, people don't really know what they want, even though they like to think they do.

[JimmyDean]

Also http://gamerescape.com/2014/03/24/fi...how-to-fix-it/

But Yoshi basically said to his team. "See that WoW game?" "Go play it and use that as your template." They didnt have to come up with too much new. Which the 1.0 team had to do.

[Arielyanna]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't EverQuest the inspiration towards FFXI? So asking for FFXIV to be like FFXI... why not ask for it to go back to the inspiration behind XI?

In any event, as someone who spent 8 years in FFXI and from Phase 3 of the FFXIV ARR Beta til now, I can see how some may want some more... FFXI-ness... in FFXIV. I admit, I would love a return to the XP party system of XI, I really enjoyed that. Maybe some of the NM's/HNM's... Imagine Absolute Virtue or Pandemonium Warden turning up in Eorzea...

But, while as much as I did love FFXI... it's time to move on. Nothing wrong with referencing the past, but do we really want a FFXI 2.0? Could we really trust that? Yoshi P and his current team have done so much to turn FFXIV around from Version 1.0, so credit is due in that regard. I would like them to work on more newer things, instead of reliving the past (except for XP parties... I want them back dammit!).

[Skivvy]

What I don't understand is that...FFXI is still there. It hasn't gone anywhere. Why try to change FFXIV when you can easily just play FFXI instead? Or perhaps play both games?

I've learned from many years in my line of work, people don't really know what they want, even though they like to think they do.

I do actually play both games currently. If you're on Asura, come hunt me down

XIV I keep active more for social reasons. My time is spent in Limsa sitting around doing nothing because I'm at the point where I find most everything else pointless. Gil has no real value. Why bother trying to gear all jobs to the teeth when a patch is looming and will reset everything I've done back to square one. I don't want to spend all my time running the same 2-3 dungeons and raids for gear that makes just about no differnce in the big picture. One might say I've become jaded with the game.

Why do I keep playing? Because I really WANT to like it. I think they could make the game far better than it is, but they've gone the easy, safe route, and that makes me sad.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't EverQuest the inspiration towards FFXI? So asking for FFXIV to be like FFXI... why not ask for it to go back to the inspiration behind XI?

In any event, as someone who spent 8 years in FFXI and from Phase 3 of the FFXIV ARR Beta til now, I can see how some may want some more... FFXI-ness... in FFXIV. I admit, I would love a return to the XP party system of XI, I really enjoyed that. Maybe some of the NM's/HNM's... Imagine Absolute Virtue or Pandemonium Warden turning up in Eorzea...

But, while as much as I did love FFXI... it's time to move on. Nothing wrong with referencing the past, but do we really want a FFXI 2.0? Could we really trust that? Yoshi P and his current team have done so much to turn FFXIV around from Version 1.0, so credit is due in that regard. I would like them to work on more newer things, instead of reliving the past (except for XP parties... I want them back dammit!).

In regards to Everquest - It seems a bit less far fetched to ask SE to borrow some things from their one and only other MMO instead of taking from an even older, unrelated MMO. While I would have loved an updated XI, I'm really not pushing for that. Just hoping they can somehow flesh out XIV as it is in some major need of depth.

I'm just always amazed at the people who have the knee-jerk reactions whenever XI is mentioned. Not to be a broken record, but the game really had a lot of great gameplay. There are far worse games that they could draw inspiration from.