Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[DrekeLamorte]

Okay, this seriously needs to be fixed immediately.

Now, before you all say, "Oh come on dude, why you gotta crap on something so awesome," honestly think about it. The consequences will be a domino effect that just might force SE to do a server rollback.

Here's an example: I just got 25,000EXP in less than five minutes. From level 24 to 25 with a friend killing and chaining crabs for me in my party.

The above is far far too extreme. Given these possibilities, and even more if she killed something at a higher level, everyone will exploit the crap out of this and no one will have a job below level 40 within a month. Do we really want this? Do we want to make the journey to cap so utterly pointless?

I'm really concerned for the future of this game if this is what SE intended in this patch! This is bad, really bad. Please, SE, let's get an emergency maintenance and fix this before it is too late!

Five times now people have tried to be clever and call me a hypocrite or somesuch. Let me make it exceedingly clear that I refuse to use this now that my friend and I have tested it out. Nor do I want to be complacent with it.

This isn't a time-sink grind. I understand your concerns, but have you tried crafting or gathering? Use a manual and burn your aspect on a leve, you'll see the same results. It's not meant to be a slow, tedious solo grind. It's meant to be enjoyed at the peak, for everyone. Get on and explore the new beastmen strongholds, just because you can. Go do In-game content. Remember all those (!)'s you ignore because the rewards are so low? Well those are meant to be enjoyed, not enter-spam through and follow your journal map. Read!!!!! You could even experiment and test things with the new system and crossed-class abilities to make a build unique to you, that you WANT, not necessarily need.

Also, finish taking up all your other classes to 50. There is no main job. SE has already announced job classes. They plan on changing things even more drastically than this in the near future. Ride the tide.

[Issac]

Powerleveling is not broken, it does not brake the game,

Yes it is, yes it does.

Im truly wondering how many MMO's you have played in the past besides FFXI if even that. Most MMO's have a system where you level up quickly, most MMO companys purposely make the grind easy and bareable,

It would take far too much of my energy to list them all. The only MMO that I have ever played that was so sickeningly easy that I couldn't stand it was WoW.

It breaks my heart to see XIV make a new record in this. I will say it again, powerleveling to this extent does not belong in a MMORPG. People need to understand that progression is an important part of a MMORPG and you can't make it possible to skip that if you want to be in that genre.

so normal players dont say fuck this shit its stupid id rather play instant gratification games like Fighters, FPS etc.

My point exactly. If you want instant gratification, go play a genre of game that delivers such. Don't destroy the genre that we enjoy.

[Mindx3]

Enough to understand it's broken and don't you people even read? how many time i have to say it?

Yoshi-p said that you wont get much exp from a friend killing a higher level mob for you be then again people are getting 300-1k Your friend is helping you gain level and you can just sit there this is how it's broken and RMT and many people would get 50 do the few stuff there is and complain how there noting to do at 50.

For game list? EQ,EQ2,FFXI,WOW,AION,RIFT,RS,The Lord of the Rings online, Should i go on?

He did say that, but he also never gave an exact number (i dont believe)...i know iv tested this with a lvl 7lnc, my friend killed a lvl 49 mob and i only got 250+ xp from it.the rediculous numbers people have been posting is most likely for low levels...and thats completely fine as im sure a level cap increase is on the way. As for the player that reported going from 9-27 in 3hours i think that this is great, imagine if they raised the cap to 80....9-27 in 3 hours doesnt sound to bad anymore does it? As it is, its much better than going from 9-15 in 3 hours. Now did this player who achieved 9-27 in 3 hours break the game for you? Is his success so unbearable that this game is broken for you? I know i could care less how fast anyone hits 50. As a general rule the way i see it (and i may be wrong) but in order to get 1k xp chains the mob has to be atleast 15 lvls ahead of you, this means at 30 you will need to fight level 45+ mobs in order to get this xp with a 50 in your group,and at 45+ you will need mobs lvl 60 or so GL powerleveling through those.

[Zenaku]

He did say that, but he also never gave an exact number (i dont believe)...i know iv tested this with a lvl 7lnc, my friend killed a lvl 49 mob and i only got 250+ xp from it.the rediculous numbers people have been posting is most likely for low levels...and thats completely fine as im sure a level cap increase is on the way. As for the player that reported going from 9-27 in 3hours i think that this is great, imagine if they raised the cap to 80....9-27 in 3 hours doesnt sound to bad anymore does it? As it is, its much better than going from 9-15 in 3 hours. Now did this player who achieved 9-27 in 3 hours break the game for you? Is his success so unbearable that this game is broken for you? I know i could care less how fast anyone hits 50. As a general rule the way i see it (and i may be wrong) but in order to get 1k xp chains the mob has to be atleast 15 lvls ahead of you, this means at 30 you will need to fight level 45+ mobs in order to get this xp with a 50 in your group,and at 45+ you will need mobs lvl 60 or so GL powerleveling through those.

Once again it not ok to powerlevel others so they gain max level it breaks the game due to the fact people would complain that there noting to do. If you really think this is ok then we should just get a 50 as we start the game -.-

[Issac]

He did say that, but he also never gave an exact number (i dont believe)...i know iv tested this with a lvl 7lnc, my friend killed a lvl 49 mob and i only got 250+ xp from it.the rediculous numbers people have been posting is most likely for low levels...and thats completely fine as im sure a level cap increase is on the way. As for the player that reported going from 9-27 in 3hours i think that this is great, imagine if they raised the cap to 80....9-27 in 3 hours doesnt sound to bad anymore does it? As it is, its much better than going from 9-15 in 3 hours. Now did this player who achieved 9-27 in 3 hours break the game for you? Is his success so unbearable that this game is broken for you? I know i could care less how fast anyone hits 50. As a general rule the way i see it (and i may be wrong) but in order to get 1k xp chains the mob has to be atleast 15 lvls ahead of you, this means at 30 you will need to fight level 45+ mobs in order to get this xp with a 50 in your group,and at 45+ you will need mobs lvl 60 or so GL powerleveling through those.

Have your friend kill 20 lv25 mobs at once and watch that EXP bar FLY!

It's broken. Stop denying it.

Edit; Let me break it down for you as you were requesting hard numbers before.
Let's assume you got base exp of 100 per kill (lowballing it) for your lv50 friend killing lv30 mobs for you while you're level 10. In this, let's assume he killed 15 mobs at once.

(Second set of numbers is base exp 300, link bonus ends at the 5th mob.)

1st Mob:
100 + 100% LINK BONUS, 200 (300 + 100%, 600)
2nd Mob:
100 + 120% LINK BONUS CHAIN 1, 220 (300 + 120%, 660)
3rd Mob:
100 + 125% LINK CHAIN 2, 225 (300 + 125%, 675)
4th Mob:
100 + 130% LINK CHAIN 3, 230 (300 + 130%, 690)
5th Mob:
100 + 140% LINK CHAIN 4, 240 (300 + 140%, 720)
6th mob:
100 + 150% LINK CHAIN 5, 250 (300 + 50%, 450)
7th mob:
100 + 150% LINK CHAIN 6, 250 (300 + 50%, 450)
8th mob:
100 + 150% LINK CHAIN 7, 250 (300 + 50%, 450)
9th mob:
100 + 150% LINK CHAIN 8, 250 (300 + 50%, 450)
10th mob:
100 + 150% LINK CHAIN 9, 250 (300 + 50%, 450)
11th mob:
100 + 150% LINK CHAIN 10, 250 (300 + 50%, 450)
12th mob:
100 + 150% LINK CHAIN 11, 250 (300 + 50%, 450)
13th mob:
100 + 150% LINK CHAIN 12, 250 (300 + 50%, 450)
14th mob:
100 + 150% LINK CHAIN 13, 250 (300 + 50%, 450)
15th mob:
100 + 150% LINK CHAIN 14, 250 (300 + 50%, 450)

Grand total:
3615XP (7845 XP)

Now, this is assuming all 15 link together, which generally isn't the case. However, the base would probably be closer to 300 in this example, so we would probably add 4000 to that number above. Keep in mind this happens within 2 seconds with one AoE spell. Oh, and let's not forget, repop is much faster now.

This isn't a problem? FU****G REALLY?!

[Mindx3]

Yes it is, yes it does.



It would take far too much of my energy to list them all. The only MMO that I have ever played that was so sickeningly easy that I couldn't stand it was WoW.

It breaks my heart to see XIV make a new record in this. I will say it again, powerleveling to this extent does not belong in a MMORPG. People need to understand that progression is an important part of a MMORPG and you can't make it possible to skip that if you want to be in that genre.

My point exactly. If you want instant gratification, go play a genre of game that delivers such. Don't destroy the genre that we enjoy.

I dont like FPS and i wreck in fighters, but i also like MMO's but id rather spend most of my time improving my gear and completing content after i hit cap I could care less about the in between as that shit dont matter in end game. Iv been through the grind 100 million times and im sure most of us have, its no different in any game. Actually it is different in XIV, because you are not leveling just one class, you are leveling multiple classes and with crafting classes added in there is an INSANE amount to level. Dont forget that new classes are coming, in the past you lvl'd one class to cap and made a new character (for most games). Now in order to have a completely capped character you have to level everything, as i intend to eventually do this (god bless me if i survive this grind) it will take some serious time to complete. You want your endless grind to take some time? Level everything up.

[Mindx3]

Have your friend kill 20 lv25 mobs at once and watch that EXP bar FLY!

It's broken. Stop denying it.

I will and i intend to do so, and when my cnj hits 50 i intend to do the same for him. And when we are both 50 we will help our LS level up as well, and when they are all 50 we will complete content together and have fun while you are still out there grinding away.

[vax]

Ok, yesterday a friend of a ls Pled 4 of the member of the linkshell and wtf, this is fucking broken, monster pop every 1 min and fucking easy to kill for a lvl 50 (we were fighting raptors near iron like). Got lnc 31 to almost 36 in less than 1:30.
SE should fix this before become an Abyssea 2.0. (but after i got my lnc to 50 xD)

[Vaer]

I dont like FPS and i wreck in fighters, but i also like MMO's but id rather spend most of my time improving my gear and completing content after i hit cap I could care less about the in between as that shit dont matter in end game. Iv been through the grind 100 million times and im sure most of us have, its no different in any game. Actually it is different in XIV, because you are not leveling just one class, you are leveling multiple classes and with crafting classes added in there is an INSANE amount to level. Dont forget that new classes are coming, in the past you lvl'd one class to cap and made a new character (for most games). Now in order to have a completely capped character you have to level everything, as i intend to eventually do this (god bless me if i survive this grind) it will take some serious time to complete. You want your endless grind to take some time? Level everything up.

You won't ever have a capped character anyway. Maybe you could for a few months. Gear gets outdated. It's the same thing. Gear is replaced, then you have to grind for a new set, then a new set, new materia, more grind. Just because you don't like the journey, doesn't mean everyone is the same. Grinding is what MMOs are about.

Besides, you don't HAVE to level everything. That's why you play with other people. They can supplement your crafts or your jobs. If you need to be able to do everything yourself, that is a choice you have.

[Zenaku]

I dont like FPS and i wreck in fighters, but i also like MMO's but id rather spend most of my time improving my gear and completing content after i hit cap I could care less about the in between as that shit dont matter in end game. Iv been through the grind 100 million times and im sure most of us have, its no different in any game. Actually it is different in XIV, because you are not leveling just one class, you are leveling multiple classes and with crafting classes added in there is an INSANE amount to level. Dont forget that new classes are coming, in the past you lvl'd one class to cap and made a new character (for most games). Now in order to have a completely capped character you have to level everything, as i intend to eventually do this (god bless me if i survive this grind) it will take some serious time to complete. You want your endless grind to take some time? Level everything up.

Are you saying you need to level everything so you can have all the spell? did you forget that jobs are better at partying? which does not allow hybrid? you can't use cure on a monk only on PLD.