Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

[Sun-Runner]

because powerlevel should move out and find somewhere else where real players are playing.

I would assume that they were real players too. If nothing else, they were real accounts. If Rinsui suspected them of being bots or whatnot, I would suggest reporting them. (You can report in this game, right? ... so many missing features, this one might be missing as well.)

Rinsui's party could have also ignored the request and attempted to compete for the enemies.

I don't care what you say how good you make it sound matter what you say you can't say PL is not broken and not break the game.

That's nice.

[Zenaku]

I would assume that they were real players too. If nothing else, they were real accounts. If Rinsui suspected them of being bots or whatnot, I would suggest reporting them. (You can report in this game, right? ... so many missing features, this one might be missing as well.)

Rinsui's party could have also ignored the request and attempted to compete for the enemies.

That's nice.

I don't know how many time i have to say this yoshi- p said that when a high level kill a high level mob for a low level you wont get much exp so it's broken and over 90+ people agree that pl break a game you could deal with it on other way.

Link account,EXP ring, or even powerlevel in the way of ffxi someone heal you but you still doing the work not someone doing the work for you while you afk all day.

[Mindx3]

because powerlevel should move out and find somewhere else where real players are playing. I don't care what you say how good you make it sound matter what you say you can't say PL is not broken and not break the game.

I was in a party with my ls and our lvl50 gld was killing stuff for us and there was a party killing the same mobs...at first there was competition but then we realised that there was enough mobs for everyone. Am i not considered a real player because im playing with my friends? Am i not considered a real player because i gained 1 whole lvl with a 50 in my group. Let me set this straight for you

Powerleveling is not broken, it does not brake the game, it is simply another option in which to gain exp....pre 1.18 everyone complained that there were no methods of gaining xp except leves...which was completely untrue since u could kill mobs 10 lvls ahead of you for 450-600 and level rather quickly at any level, you could also complete leves for 4.5-5k xp. Now i can grab as many leves as im allowed which is 30 atm...and when my friends arent on i can simply burn through them and level in no time as well. Leveling up does not brake the game...and the current plvl system does not break the game...go try it out yourself...i really doubt that you or your plvl will last more than 2-3 hours and within those lvls...unless your very low lvl and had a mage aoe everything (i still havent tested this but it sounds sweet) your not going to get 10 levels within the hour.

I gave the example earlier in this thread of my PT of 3 fighting raptors there was me a 39con a 31pug and a 50 lnc. It still took time for the lnc to kill the mobs and we could only normally keep chain 4 going. The exp was great but it wasnt anything groundbreaking, i didnt get 50 in a day i didnt get 10 lvls within the 1hour and 30 min that we fought raptors for. In fact as of now i am only 41, very very close to hitting 42 and i only did about 7 leves for the entire level, which only took me about 45 min. Again if 1-50 is possible within the day (and im talking for the avg player) then let me see screens let me see a video of someone completeing 1-50 in a couple hours prove it. Provide evidence that this is completely broken, as i have provided you evidence that it is not. And if it is indeed possible then so be it, this occurance will be very rare for any player i guarantee it, except maybe for bots and rmt's.

Im truly wondering how many MMO's you have played in the past besides FFXI if even that. Most MMO's have a system where you level up quickly, most MMO companys purposely make the grind easy and bareable, so normal players dont say fuck this shit its stupid id rather play instant gratification games like Fighters, FPS etc. Its the reason why WoW completely dominated EQ and FFXI in subs it took me 2 1/2 weeks to complete 1-60 when wow came out...im currently in my 2nd month of ffxiv and i still havent reached cap and im at the point where i want to get 50asap to fight ifrit with my LS and get started on my crafting to replace my dated gear, whats wrong with having a buddy help me accomplish this goal? I could easily grab a PT and get comparable xp, i could easily do leves and get comparable xp. Either way im still going to hit 50...and all your complaining isnt going to stop that.

Now excuse me while i finish more leves and wait untill my friends get on.

[Zenaku]

I was in a party with my ls and our lvl50 gld was killing stuff for us and there was a party killing the same mobs...at first there was competition but then we realised that there was enough mobs for everyone. Am i not considered a real player because im playing with my friends? Am i not considered a real player because i gained 1 whole lvl with a 50 in my group. Let me set this straight for you

Powerleveling is not broken, it does not brake the game, it is simply another option in which to gain exp....pre 1.18 everyone complained that there were no methods of gaining xp except leves...which was completely untrue since u could kill mobs 10 lvls ahead of you for 450-600 and level rather quickly at any level, you could also complete leves for 4.5-5k xp. Now i can grab as many leves as im allowed which is 30 atm...and when my friends arent on i can simply burn through them and level in no time as well. Leveling up does not brake the game...and the current plvl system does not break the game...go try it out yourself...i really doubt that you or your plvl will last more than 2-3 hours and within those lvls...unless your very low lvl and had a mage aoe everything (i still havent tested this but it sounds sweet) your not going to get 10 levels within the hour.

I gave the example earlier in this thread of my PT of 3 fighting raptors there was me a 39con a 31pug and a 50 lnc. It still took time for the lnc to kill the mobs and we could only normally keep chain 4 going. The exp was great but it wasnt anything groundbreaking, i didnt get 50 in a day i didnt get 10 lvls within the 1hour and 30 min that we fought raptors for. In fact as of now i am only 41, very very close to hitting 42 and i only did about 7 leves for the entire level, which only took me about 45 min. Again if 1-50 is possible within the day (and im talking for the avg player) then let me see screens let me see a video of someone completeing 1-50 in a couple hours prove it. Provide evidence that this is completely broken, as i have provided you evidence that it is not. And if it is indeed possible then so be it, this occurance will be very rare for any player i guarantee it, except maybe for bots and rmt's.

Im truly wondering how many MMO's you have played in the past besides FFXI if even that. Most MMO's have a system where you level up quickly, most MMO companys purposely make the grind easy and bareable, so normal players dont say fuck this shit its stupid id rather play instant gratification games like Fighters, FPS etc. Its the reason why WoW completely dominated EQ and FFXI in subs it took me 2 1/2 weeks to complete 1-60 when wow came out...im currently in my 2nd month of ffxiv and i still havent reached cap and im at the point where i want to get 50asap to fight ifrit with my LS and get started on my crafting to replace my dated gear, whats wrong with having a buddy help me accomplish this goal? I could easily grab a PT and get comparable xp, i could easily do leves and get comparable xp. Either way im still going to hit 50...and all your complaining isnt going to stop that.

Now excuse me while i finish more leves and wait untill my friends get on.

Enough to understand it's broken and don't you people even read? how many time i have to say it?

Yoshi-p said that you wont get much exp from a friend killing a higher level mob for you be then again people are getting 300-1k Your friend is helping you gain level and you can just sit there this is how it's broken and RMT and many people would get 50 do the few stuff there is and complain how there noting to do at 50.

For game list? EQ,EQ2,FFXI,WOW,AION,RIFT,RS,The Lord of the Rings online, Should i go on?

[Issac]

Powerleveling is not broken, it does not brake the game,

Yes it is, yes it does.

Im truly wondering how many MMO's you have played in the past besides FFXI if even that. Most MMO's have a system where you level up quickly, most MMO companys purposely make the grind easy and bareable,

It would take far too much of my energy to list them all. The only MMO that I have ever played that was so sickeningly easy that I couldn't stand it was WoW.

It breaks my heart to see XIV make a new record in this. I will say it again, powerleveling to this extent does not belong in a MMORPG. People need to understand that progression is an important part of a MMORPG and you can't make it possible to skip that if you want to be in that genre.

so normal players dont say fuck this shit its stupid id rather play instant gratification games like Fighters, FPS etc.

My point exactly. If you want instant gratification, go play a genre of game that delivers such. Don't destroy the genre that we enjoy.

[Issac]

So (roughly) three parties had already claimed the area and available spawns, and asked your party not to compete with them for the same enemies. Sounds fair to me. I fail to see the idiocy.

So wait, wait. Are you saying that a person being powerleveled has the same right to mobs as a legitimate party? If you're going to skip content like that at least have the common courtesy to allow others who actually want to play to experience it.

I mean, you can't be that idiotic. Not only in favor of a broken mechanic, but also in favor of shafting others who don't want to take advantage of a broken mechanic?

Right.

[Vahzl]

So wait, wait. Are you saying that a person being powerleveled has the same right to mobs as a legitimate party? If you're going to skip content like that at least have the common courtesy to allow others who actually want to play to experience it.

I mean, you can't be that idiotic. Not only in favor of a broken mechanic, but also in favor of shafting others who don't want to take advantage of a broken mechanic?

Right.

Yes I actually do think that if someone was there before you, you should go out into the myriad of other locations and find your own place.

You both don't pay the same amount of money to play, so you are getting what you are not paying for, and even if you were paying, the simple fact of the matter is that they were there first.

[Sun-Runner]

So wait, wait. Are you saying that a person being powerleveled has the same right to mobs as a legitimate party? If you're going to skip content like that at least have the common courtesy to allow others who actually want to play to experience it.

Both are players, both have the same privileges.

Not only in favor of a broken mechanic, but also in favor of shafting others who don't want to take advantage of a broken mechanic?

I'm in favor of the mechanic being available (and apparently so is the lead developer). As for "shafting others"? Heh. Both sets are players. Neither set is paying anything at the moment, but once they start charging both will be paying the same fee. I fail to see why one set should have priority over the other.

[Vahzl]

Just dinged 27 from level 9, in 3 hours! Wooo!

[Arximiro]

Not reading all of the thread but just wanted to add I hope this shit gets fixed asap. It's completely fucked and ridiculous. If this is working as intended a lot of people are going to quit.

Seriously wtf were they thinking.. sigh