Forcing NA Duty Finder to be better, we need a grading system.

[Jetstream_Fox]

well.. we are already separated. Just look what is going on.

The idea of the OP is good, might not end all problems on 1 night but is a good start.

Except for the facts stated by others and myself that a superficial ranking system isn't going to do anything but further drive people away and encourage even more negative types of play just so people can say that they're a top rank player, despite the fact again, this is a superficial rank and people are going to play however they want, just like how players in other games with rankings play like they want.

[WinterLuna]

well.. we are already separated. Just look what is going on.

The idea of the OP is good, might not end all problems on 1 night but is a good start.

It is not a good idea. Separating players into 7 different groups based on variables which aren't even reliable is far from solving the problem. 'Damage taken' for example, has absolutely nothing to do with how good a player is, a player could take a lot more damage than another simply due to a mechanic.

As annoying as lazy players are, I'd rather have to carry 1 DPS than wait 3x longer in queue just to have someone who might play a little better. Not to mention, being in a certain rank/tier doesn't mean that player is going to play accordingly every time. It would be foolish to even think so. Nothing is stopping them from increasing ranks and then playing like crap and slacking off until they almost drop a rank. I'm sure it would also be trolled.

Sorry, but this simply isn't a good idea.

[Frederick22]

Except for the facts stated by others and myself that a superficial ranking system isn't going to do anything but further drive people away and encourage even more negative types of play just so people can say that they're a top rank player, despite the fact again, this is a superficial rank and people are going to play however they want, just like how players in other games with rankings play like they want.

well..its already heavy divided and negative.
But thats just your opinion mate.

It is not a good idea. Separating players into 7 different groups based on variables which aren't even reliable is far from solving the problem. 'Damage taken' for example, has absolutely nothing to do with how good a player is, a player could take a lot more damage than another simply due to a mechanic.

As annoying as lazy players are, I'd rather have to carry 1 DPS than wait 3x longer in queue just to have someone who might play a little better. Not to mention, being in a certain rank/tier doesn't mean that player is going to play accordingly every time. It would be foolish to even think so. Nothing is stopping them from increasing ranks and then playing like crap and slacking off until they almost drop a rank. I'm sure it would also be trolled.

Sorry, but this simply isn't a good idea.

Just your opinion. and from what I see. Seems that so far the mayority wants this.
Well if this sistem check each player of a party separately and not the hole work it would be easy then. High status to the ones that made the best performance and lows to the carried one.

Why we would have to wait? this is just a theorie, an idea. You dont know how the program team of SE will do it on case the make this tipe of sistem.
Dont judge something that doesnt even exist yet.

[WinterLuna]

Just your opinion. and from what i see. Seems that so far the mayority wants this.

Most of what I said were facts.

[Frederick22]

Most of what I said were facts.

Still you cant say this will not work, since you cant know how could be developed if end on happening.

[WinterLuna]

Still you cant say this will not work, since you cant know how could be developed if end on happening.

As I said, the OP's variables he mentioned are already flawed so I can confidently say this won't work as it is currently presented.

Also telling me not to judge something that doesn't exist is kind of ridiculous as you're doing that exact same thing by telling me it's a good idea.

[Deceptistar]

If at all i think there should be an attitude grading system on how good/bad you act.
If your a demeaning ahole then yeah get graded
If you need to learn still and your giving the most retarded shitty attitudes then get graded.
Alls fair, grading going both ways.

The more your grade sucks, the more you get pushed under the barrel for queue times.
Less people to deal with you, no matter how good or bad your skills are.

[Jetstream_Fox]

well..its already heavy divided and negative.
But thats just your opinion mate.



Why we would have to wait? this is just a theorie, an idea. You dont know how the program team of SE will do it on case the make this tipe of sistem.
Dont judge something that doesnt even exist yet.

It's not an opinion, this type of system already exists in other types of games and doesn't make players better, go play Ultra Street Fighter, after every match you get graded on offense, defense, and technique. You can completely shut down someone and get grade A on offense and technique, but on defense simply because your opponent was able to land Akumas Ultra as their only attack you get graded a C on defense. After the fight you see the player you just beat was a rank higher than you and played that bad. So you play your next match and go up against a Cammy and she's spiral arrow left and right, grabbing you with hooligan combinations and cannon spiking you every chance she can get. You get graded E on offense, defense and technique AND find out this was the players first go into ranking and you got destroyed.

Superficial things like letter grades and overall rankings don't determine someone's actual skill level at the game, nor does it promise that the player will actually play to the level that they obtained. Everytime I see one of these posts asking for a ranking system it really makes me wonder what the spectrum of games this community plays or if MMOs and FF14 are the only things people play. Rankings are present in Shooters, Fighters, Sports, Hack and Slash, Survival and Adventure games. Hell one of my FC mates and I are playing Resident Evil 6 on PS Now and she always gets a better accuracy rating than I do because she uses a Sniper and I'm using Automatic weapons. But that doesn't make her the better player because one percentage is higher, of course the game will grade her higher simply because she has 89% accuracy and I have a 67%.

Now take that and put it into FF14 with say damage received and dealt add the mechanics that drop DPS or take a player out of the fight momentarily, or adds that need to be killed with a buff on. You'll see at the end of the duty a player with a lower damage because they had to deal with mechanics, they got throw out of the fight, had to deal with adds and soak damage that can spread through the team. While the other player didn't have any mechanics to worry about and they had higher scores all around.

[Erudito]

For the love of Hydealyn do not make or add any sort anything that can stroke peoples ego in a game like this. It will turn toxic really fast and ruin the gaming experience for many.

[bass9020]

For the love of Hydealyn do not make or add any sort anything that can stroke peoples ego in a game like this. It will turn toxic really fast and ruin the gaming experience for many.

Its already ruined why not help it?