Dual wield when?

[White_Devil]

Alternatively, it'd be interesting if all the classes that lack offhand options (with the possible exception of Ninja) had access to various firearms (e.g. Double Barrels, Flintlocks, Revolvers, Crossbows) with their own stats, range and its own action for firing, the guild with guns equipped under the marauder's guild could be put to use, I'd draw up a diagram of how it would work but it seems a bit too much and might mess things up.

[Khalithar]

I want to duel wield a lalafell drk and a lalafell pld.

Or play a mnk and use two lalafell mnks as fist weapons!

[Duuude007]

MNK has 2 weapons...

[SendohJin]

Ninja relics are not daggers and neither are the cleaver type weapons from most trials.

Ninja/Rogue weaponskills are almost all slashing type abilities which are not primarily meant for daggers either.

there's like a 5% chance we're going to get any other type of dual-wielding.

[bass9020]

MNK has 2 weapons...

They have 1 weapon mirroring 2 same as ninja. But monk using 2 of the same doesn't seem weird I don't think you would want 2 different types of punching weapons lol

[Kosmos992k]

Raubahn has show the ability to wield two swords at once, dual wielding, and as far as we know he is some form of Gladiator. So Lorewise, Gladiator should be able to gain a dual wield skill. Personally I'd be OK with this, but would like to see a new job based on Gladiator, but not a tank as such and kind of the opposite to the PLD. I'm thinking more in the direction of a more lightly armored Gladiator with defense approximately equivalent to a Dragoon, but wielding two swords instead of a sword and shield. Not sure what it should be called, but Lore-wise We should be able to branch this off of Gladiator and use Raubhan's history as a backdrop to the job quests.

Back in the 80's there was a TV version of Robin Hood, called Robin of Sherwood. It was a British show, I'm not sure if it was ever seen in the US. There was a character in that called Nasir, who was supposed to be a Saracen assasin. His standard weapon was dual wielded curved short swords, kind if like a rapier but with more curve.

So, perhaps we could have a Saracen 'job' which is a DPS branch of Gladiator that uses two swords, smaller than those used by PLD/GLA, but definitely swords not daggers. Curved blades would look great with this too.

Here is a picture of Nasir in action;


And with the swords sheathed on his back;


And this is a better picture to see the actual blades;



and with scimitars;



and another 'action' image';

[Croweyes]

how come ninja doesnt count...."since they use daggers"? what? ¬¬

It doesn't count cause it debunks his argument = ^)

[Niwashi]

ninjas don't count as they use daggers.
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I would love it if samurai dual wielded katanas but im pretty sure if it comes, they only use 2h katanas.

Ninja sometimes use daggers (and in the lower levels, as rogue, the class quests discuss their weapons as being daggers), but a lot of their later weapons are swords. And samurai would probably use 2H katanas (or ōdachi) to distinguish them from Ninja who can already dual wield 2 katanas.

DO you really want to hear the cries and complaints from people who have to farm 2 weapons just because they dual wield?

Would it be that different from paladins, who already have an extra slot to fill? Sure, theirs is a shield rather than a second weapon, but it's pretty important for them. If there were a dual wielding class that used separate main and off hand weapons (rather than the two in one pattern that Ninja and Monk do) they'd simply be half the cost or twice as easy to get to counter the fact that they'd need two of them, much the same as a paladin's sword and shield together cost the same as a weapon for any other job (at least in places where SE can directly control the cost, like tome weapons).

Never. There is no such thing as "proper" dual wielding. If you look historically - back when they actually used swords, axes, etc. to fight - nobody ever[*] used two weapons at once. When possible weapon+shield or (rarely) a 2h-weapon was much preferred.
[*] There is actually one well-known exception. The use of rapier+dagger was not uncommon during the renaissance, but that is just about the only historically documented occurence of using two weapons at once.

Well, that's not quite the only time a dagger was paired with another weapon, but was probably its most widespread use, and fits a broader real-world pattern. Pretty much any time two weapons were wielded at once, the off-hand weapon would be something small. Wielding a full-sized weapon in each hand seems to be a purely fantasy creation (though a quite popular one, since it looks badass, and in fantasy that counts for more than the practical considerations of how cumbersome it would be).

I think it would be interesting if the game had a dual wielding class where the main hand weapon and off hand weapon were two different classes of items, like main hand sword and off hand dagger. I don't think it's likely, though, since it would double the number of weapons SE would have to design for the job. More likely would be other jobs that dual wield the way monks and ninja do, with a pair of matching weapons as a single item (dual axes, maybe).

[bass9020]

Would it be that different from paladins, who already have an extra slot to fill? Sure, theirs is a shield rather than a second weapon, but it's pretty important for them. If there were a dual wielding class that used separate main and off hand weapons (rather than the two in one pattern that Ninja and Monk do) they'd simply be half the cost or twice as easy to get to counter the fact that they'd need two of them, much the same as a paladin's sword and shield together cost the same as a weapon for any other job (at least in places where SE can directly control the cost, like tome weapons).

I was thinking it could be like gla/pld but the shield is half the stats so I wouldn't know how it would work for a dual wield class. But its an interesting idea to think about.

[Cakekizyy]

Alternatively, it'd be interesting if all the classes that lack offhand options (with the possible exception of Ninja) had access to various firearms (e.g. Double Barrels, Flintlocks, Revolvers, Crossbows) with their own stats, range and its own action for firing, the guild with guns equipped under the marauder's guild could be put to use, I'd draw up a diagram of how it would work but it seems a bit too much and might mess things up.

Monk and ninja should get off hands to keep stats balanced.