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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    If you all think getting someone to Kill mobs for you and getting 1-20 without doing something is right then you people have real big issue.
    Q: After the claiming system change in patch 1.19, I'm afraid everyone will be power leveling each other. What do you think of this?
    A: It depends on what you consider power leveling. I just want to make sure friends are able to help each other if they want to challenge content together.

    Yoshi-P has issues...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindx3 View Post
    Q: After the claiming system change in patch 1.19, I'm afraid everyone will be power leveling each other. What do you think of this?
    A: It depends on what you consider power leveling. I just want to make sure friends are able to help each other if they want to challenge content together.

    Yoshi-P has issues...
    Funny, nowhere in that answer does he say "I think someone should be able to get someone to kill mobs for them and go from 1-20 without doing anything."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    Funny, nowhere in that answer does he say "I think someone should be able to get someone to kill mobs for them and go from 1-20 without doing anything."
    Hes pretty much confirming hes ok with power leveling which is pretty much having somone kill mobs for me without doing anything.
    The way im going to help my friend be able to challenge content with me is by having him tag mobs and me killing them so he can gain exp. untill he is around my level. I have issues too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindx3 View Post
    Hes pretty much confirming hes ok with power leveling which is pretty much having somone kill mobs for me without doing anything.
    That's absolutely 100% untrue lol. Hell, in FFXI powerleveling was generally just a mage outside the party tossing heals on the tank.

    I don't think the people who have a problem with what's going on now are necessarily completely anti-powerleveling. I know I'm not. But it should be limited at the very least. Level 50 mobs should not give full exp to a level 20 player when a level 50 in their party killed them. It makes no sense and no other MMO does it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindx3 View Post
    Hes pretty much confirming hes ok with power leveling which is pretty much having somone kill mobs for me without doing anything.
    The way im going to help my friend be able to challenge content with me is by having him tag mobs and me killing them so he can gain exp. untill he is around my level. I have issues too.
    He said this just before 1.19 was released and if the patch notes are to be believed, it looks like lower level players should get level appropriate XP for these kills with a cap on bonus for the monster being higher than them. YES, power leveling would still be possible, but for a 50 to power level a 25, each kill, even a level 50 monster kill, would only net the level 25 an amount of experience similar to what that level 25 might get on his own killing a even match 25 mob, plus a little bonus for chains and it being higher than him, with a cap on the XP. Meaning, the level 50 would still have to kill a similar number of monsters as the 25 would have to kill on his own to level. Is it power leveling? Yes. Can the 50 kill more monsters and faster than the 25 could on his own? Yes. Hence the question being asked of Yoshi in the first place. But could someone pull 10 level 45+ mobs, AoE them down, and instantly ding a lower level? NO. The lower level would get more experience than normal, but it would still take a lot longer than the PLing going on now, and would be virtually worthless by the mid 20s to lower 30s. Most higher levels would tire of it long before getting someone close 40 and certainly would not do it regularly for multiple people. In a way, it would be much similar to power level in FFXI. It would speed things up, make them easier, but be a drain on the higher level and not a super benefit versus a balanced group anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoDeSol View Post
    He said this just before 1.19 was released and if the patch notes are to be believed, it looks like lower level players should get level appropriate XP for these kills with a cap on bonus for the monster being higher than them. YES, power leveling would still be possible, but for a 50 to power level a 25, each kill, even a level 50 monster kill, would only net the level 25 an amount of experience similar to what that level 25 might get on his own killing a even match 25 mob, plus a little bonus for chains and it being higher than him, with a cap on the XP. Meaning, the level 50 would still have to kill a similar number of monsters as the 25 would have to kill on his own to level. Is it power leveling? Yes. Can the 50 kill more monsters and faster than the 25 could on his own? Yes. Hence the question being asked of Yoshi in the first place. But could someone pull 10 level 45+ mobs, AoE them down, and instantly ding a lower level? NO. The lower level would get more experience than normal, but it would still take a lot longer than the PLing going on now, and would be virtually worthless by the mid 20s to lower 30s. Most higher levels would tire of it long before getting someone close 40 and certainly would not do it regularly for multiple people. In a way, it would be much similar to power level in FFXI. It would speed things up, make them easier, but be a drain on the higher level and not a super benefit versus a balanced group anyway.
    2.Difference Between Player and Enemy Levels
    Higher level enemies will yield more EXP, while lower level enemies will yield less. This revision will not greatly affect the amount of EXP obtainable. However, a cap will be imposed upon the bonus awarded to players for defeating higher level enemies'

    If this cap is indeed not working then yes it is broken
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindx3 View Post
    Q: After the claiming system change in patch 1.19, I'm afraid everyone will be power leveling each other. What do you think of this?
    A: It depends on what you consider power leveling. I just want to make sure friends are able to help each other if they want to challenge content together.

    Yoshi-P has issues...
    Yes yoshi-p does have issue if he thinks helping someone get 1-30+ without doing noting is good way to play then he out of his mind. issue is ppl going to get 50 mad quick then they going to get bored that there noting to do later on.

    For that ffxiv should give you a free 50 just for buying the game if that how thing going to be. Before ppl was /sh for party having fun meeting new players and such. Now we back before that where no one care about party and solo with a powerlevel -.-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindx3 View Post
    Q: After the claiming system change in patch 1.19, I'm afraid everyone will be power leveling each other. What do you think of this?
    A: It depends on what you consider power leveling. I just want to make sure friends are able to help each other if they want to challenge content together.

    Yoshi-P has issues...

    As I mentioned in my post a few post up. I think the intention was that friends could help each other on things and each get a appropriate reward in XP based on each respective players level. Yes, a 50 could team with a 25 and kill level 50 things for the level 25 all day long, but the level 25 would only get the XP plus some chain bonus that a level 25 would get and there would be a cap on the bonus for killing a higher level. The 50 would get his XP as well. Win win, power level possible? absolutely, but not nearly what it is now. Now that 25 is getting a much higher XP level, the calculation mentioned in the patch notes is clearly not working and taking his lower level into account and/or the cap mentioned in the notes is clearly not working....
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