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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    I logged in and I was already rank 50.
    I LOL'ed so hard lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    I can't believe people are actually defending this System Exploit. Why would you play a game that no longer requires you to do anything? Do you honestly feel like you accomplished something when you get PLed 6 levels in an hour?

    I am ashamed to admit that WoW is no longer the easiest MMO on the market. FFXIV has taken the Crown and assassinated the other contestants. This isn't even a game any more.

    Someone made the point that it has become push button receive xp, but sadly enough you don't even have to push the button after this patch.
    Eh... last time I looked at this thread it had under 100 post... Not its almost 300. Bleh.

    Sure. Its a "system exploit" but the problems caused by it are distinctly personal. You don't have to power level, and if you choose to, you have no right to complain about any problems it causes you (becoming bored, etc).

    The issue isn't that people can power level, its that everyone thinks it effects them when really you decide whether or not it even matters to you. If you don't want to power level, don't do it -- The only really issue is that there are going to be people who do it then complain about it like someone forced them to -- its a social issue, not a game mechanics issue.

    Its a problem, if you want to call it one, because of what people will do it with, not because it is inherently wrong or bad. I have a lack of opinion, frankly. If people want to power level, I don't care if they do. If someone doesn't want to, then whatever. I just don't want to hear someone who does complain about the game lacking content when they are uses an unintended acceleration of the game's natural pace.

    I talk about my view point and opinion of the whole thing in my most recent blog post: http://violentdjango.tumblr.com/post...-stairs-gaming
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViolentDjango View Post
    Eh... last time I looked at this thread it had under 100 post... Not its almost 300. Bleh.

    Sure. Its a "system exploit" but the problems caused by it are distinctly personal. You don't have to power level, and if you choose to, you have no right to complain about any problems it causes you (becoming bored, etc).

    The issue isn't that people can power level, its that everyone thinks it effects them when really you decide whether or not it even matters to you. If you don't want to power level, don't do it -- The only really issue is that there are going to be people who do it then complain about it like someone forced them to -- its a social issue, not a game mechanics issue.

    Its a problem, if you want to call it one, because of what people will do it with, not because it is inherently wrong or bad. I have a lack of opinion, frankly. If people want to power level, I don't care if they do. If someone doesn't want to, then whatever. I just don't want to hear someone who does complain about the game lacking content when they are uses an unintended acceleration of the game's natural pace.

    I talk about my view point and opinion of the whole thing in my most recent blog post: http://violentdjango.tumblr.com/post...-stairs-gaming
    You don't get it do you? If everyone find out about the powerlevel do you think for a second anyone would not do it? which then mean the people who don't want too can't find people to level up due to them all getting powerlevel. Oh and don't tell me no everyone would powerlevel please everyone would powerlevel for a price.

    In FFXI when ppl found out that the bird camp in the past give you good EXP did anyone did anything else? Na they got someone around that level and stay there for days at end. When there a big exploit like this people would stop doing the other and only do this due to the fact it's the easy way to level up.

    Seeing how there new players joining all they want is 50 well they should have play like the rest of us and level there class and learn how to play. Sorry but this is a "EXPLOIT!!!" and should be fix Asap.

    You people are jokes if you agree too leaving this on the game for that just let everyone be a 50 and i can care less if you go on making jokes about that it's true that what going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    You don't get it do you?If everyone find out about the powerlevel do you think for a second anyone would not do it? which then mean the people who don't want too can't find people to level up due to them all getting powerlevel.
    Ok.. so which is it?

    Is everyone doing it?

    If so, how could there be players who can't find anyone to play with that is not doing it?

    Wouldn't those players be doing to too?

    And if there are players who are not doing it, then why can't they just play with each other?

    You know, just like the players who are doing it are.... playing with each other?

    Everyone does not have to play the game the same way you do... that would be the purpose of OPTIONS in a game...

    So everyone can choose which option they enjoy the most...

    you are a shining example of not all players WILL choose this option - you just said you won't, right?
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    SE, Oh my god. What is this crap? I play for 10 hours a day and earned my level 50s, now you're telling me some casual noobs can hit 50 too? NO THIS IS NOT OK.

    I will not let some farmville babies reach my level unless they are willing to spend the time it takes. There shouldn't be any easy route AT ALL.
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    no one going to do it the old way
    to be perfectly honest... if the majority want to do it because they find it enjoyable, who are you to say they should not?

    this is a game we play to enjoy, is it not? and if the majority of the players ARE enjoying it... that kind of speaks for itself... no?
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    The majority of people on Selbina I see are not being power leveled. Grouping by itself is such an insane way to gain XP that I really don't think PL ever will be the main form of leveling for everyone.

    Just lucky bastards who have someone willing to power level them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    The majority of people on Selbina I see are not being power leveled. Grouping by itself is such an insane way to gain XP that I really don't think PL ever will be the main form of leveling for everyone.

    Just lucky bastards who have someone willing to power level them.
    Maybe you not going to the low level areas but everything i go there some person being powerlevel and i must find other spot to party with my friends. So just because you have not yet saw them does not mean it not happening.
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    Last edited by Zenaku; 10-08-2011 at 10:15 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    to be perfectly honest... if the majority want to do it because they find it enjoyable, who are you to say they should not?

    this is a game we play to enjoy, is it not? and if the majority of the players ARE enjoying it... that kind of speaks for itself... no?
    People generally enjoy cheating at least in the short term. That doesn't make it a good idea to let people cheat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frein View Post
    People generally enjoy cheating at least in the short term. That doesn't make it a good idea to let people cheat.
    The game being programmed like this on purpose is considered cheating? Who would have ever thought!? It is not an exploit, it is not a computer bot leveling your character up for you, so please do explain to me how it is cheating? Oh wait you just can't, too bad so sad.
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