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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyKairi View Post
    If they were to introduce a level boosting option, I think it most definitely should not be to get to max level or close max level. And it most certainly should not be introduced so early. We aren't even on our second expansion yet. WoW didn't even introduce theirs until after how many expansions? If anything, increase the amount of experience you get during low levels so people still get that low level experience, but leveling gets sped up significantly (but I don't suggest this for a long while yet).

    If people are so concerned about it taking so long to do the story to get to other content, even though it pains me to say it.... Somehow make it so people can skip the story it it's not something they are interested in? I love the story so much, but my mother is one of those people who's not interested in the story and thinks it's an annoyance... So I totally understand where people are coming from.
    I think I would be ok if they did it in a way that allows you to skip all the fetch and fluff quests and it would give you a buff to your XP rate until like level 50 or maybe even 60. Less appealing, would be skip MSQ altogether. Least appealing would be *DING*, you are now level 70 and have credit for 100% MSQ completion.

    I was thinking about the presentation that Yoshi-P did about the downfall of 1.0. On one of the slides, #1 was "Never forget the fans." Which leads to a question, are the fans the group of people who have purchased your product for many years, or are they the people who consider purchasing your product and decide that since there is effort involved, they would rather pass. To me, the answer is simple, the fans are those of us that played 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, single player console Final Fantasy games or whatever. Someone playing WoW or Tera or whatever today and would consider your product if you made it easy for them are NOT your fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Istaru View Post
    I was thinking about the presentation that Yoshi-P did about the downfall of 1.0. On one of the slides, #1 was "Never forget the fans." Which leads to a question, are the fans the group of people who have purchased your product for many years, or are they the people who consider purchasing your product and decide that since there is effort involved, they would rather pass. To me, the answer is simple, the fans are those of us that played 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, single player console Final Fantasy games or whatever. Someone playing WoW or Tera or whatever today and would consider your product if you made it easy for them are NOT your fans.
    In the interview he said he talked to people familiar with WoW so clearly his fans aren't the loyal players of XI, 1.0-3.0. At least not when it comes to groundbreaking potential features.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    In the interview he said he talked to people familiar with WoW so clearly his fans aren't the loyal players of XI, 1.0-3.0. At least not when it comes to GAMEbreaking potential features.
    ^^^^^^^^^
    Fixed it for ya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    ^^^^^^^^^
    Fixed it for ya!

    Oh right thanks Kosmos!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Istaru View Post
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    When they mention fans, I feel it's the fans of FFXIV in general. Without us, the people playing this game and recommending it to friends (or players curious about it), FFXIV wouldn't be.
    They also put "Fun Comes First: If it's not fun, you're doing it wrong." Some/most classes are just not fun at low levels and a lot of the quests in the 2.0 storyline are filler (just there for exp, rather than the plot).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    When they mention fans, I feel it's the fans of FFXIV in general. Without us, the people playing this game and recommending it to friends (or players curious about it), FFXIV wouldn't be.
    They also put "Fun Comes First: If it's not fun, you're doing it wrong." Some/most classes are just not fun at low levels and a lot of the quests in the 2.0 storyline are filler (just there for exp, rather than the plot).
    Not saying they shouldn't be fun from the start but the whole point is to build up to the final "form". Its part of the experience to start from nothing and gain achievements through levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    When they mention fans, I feel it's the fans of FFXIV in general. Without us, the people playing this game and recommending it to friends (or players curious about it), FFXIV wouldn't be.
    They also put "Fun Comes First: If it's not fun, you're doing it wrong." Some/most classes are just not fun at low levels and a lot of the quests in the 2.0 storyline are filler (just there for exp, rather than the plot).
    I do not disagree about many of the 2.x quests are simply fluff and filler and not terribly fun. I don't think that it would be detrimental to anyone if people could skip over them. The potion would allow them to skip those quests and still end with the amount of xp they would have other wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Istaru View Post
    I do not disagree about many of the 2.x quests are simply fluff and filler and not terribly fun. I don't think that it would be detrimental to anyone if people could skip over them. The potion would allow them to skip those quests and still end with the amount of xp they would have other wise.
    Given that they're already making some of those quests as side quests and not required for the MSQ, it seems like they have a mechanism to deal with it outside of the potion route. Where the level/quest jump may make some sense is a few patches down the road. The road to 60, even in the game's current state, just isn't that long.
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