Suggesting Open World PVP!!!

[MaiRice]

Hi There one and all! I'm hoping to catch the attention of Hironobu Sakaguchi and the wonderful people who work on Final Fantasy XIV. You have been doing a wonderful job with all the new content and even attempting to pull more people into the awesome world of PVP. We are a huge pvp nuts. It brings about a whole nother world from PVE and makes you think on the fly, to figure out how best to defeat your opponent. It is something myself and my hubby both love to do as well as a lot of other people we know.

One of the biggest complaints we have continuously heard since we started playing has ALWAYS been about the que times for PVP. There have been so many conversations about que times it is unreal. We have sat numerous times in ques for 2 hours or more waiting for a pop for pvp for roulette and also for just regular ques and have failed to obtain a que which is very disappointing.



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[MaiRice]

When we've talked about pvp, we have thought that an open world pvp would be a great fit here. You could keep the 3 grand companies and have separate bases evenly matched out in locations from each other. You could incorporate all the different spawns that have been created for all of the different maps that could spawn at different times in different areas of the map so there could be a rush for each spot to conquer and maintain control over each place. There would be no long wait times for ques and people would be able to meet up with other for dueling or work in groups to beat each other.

It would be a great opportunity to even incorporate new and different kinds of bosses that would spawn to create new events in that part of this new world.

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[MaiRice]

We have played games prior with the open world concept and it has been such an incredible experience. We believe this would be something that people would stay around for and not stop subing to play some other form of pvp else where. It would bring about a whole new feel for FFXIV. There are so many possibilities with an open world concept.

We hope that this will bring about lots of ideas from everyone in the FFXIV community and also the great creators of FFXIV themselves.

Thanks so Much!!

Mai Rice & Ambush Theory

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

The topic has been brought up more than once. Lore-wise it would conflict as a large theme of the game/world is people working together to recover from the calamity of 7 years ago (and the current PvP model serves as joint military training as well as "sport" to settle land disputes). From a gameplay standpoint, many things would require such a rework that it would be more trouble than its worth to implement (i.e. a WHM uses Assize during a hunt, heals their team, but has now just attacked everyone else). Consider also crafting and gathering, as many nodes exist even in dangerous open world areas. To add the threat of other players to the already present PvE threats might discourage gathering, which would hold dire market reprocussions. Consider also fates, seasonal events, class/job quests, class/job balances, and hunts/treasure hunts.

That's not to say they haven't entertained the idea of PvP servers if there were enough demand, but as many players of this game are not interested in open world PvP, for many of the reasons I listed above, the likelyhood of that in this game is rather slim. Even if they were to implement a system similar to Blade & Soul where wearing PvP/Faction gear allows you to target/be targeted, most would still be turned off, turned away from the game, or just simply never wear it. Consider also exploitation (i.e. I as a MCH could lie in wait for healers, out of sight near their job quest markers, equip my PvP gear, attack, then just unequip it between attacks).

Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy PvP in this game, but as it currently is, open world PvP would be tough to implement, and a possible detriment, and/or an underused resource in the form of a dedicated server. We already have rather small PvE servers as is. I'd rather they work to improve/solidify what we have and build upon it than to try to reinvent the wheel if only to satisfy a (currently) low demand for open world PvP.

[MaiRice]

We're not talking about changing the existing world. We are talking about creating a new open world PVP map. Totally seperate from the PVE content.

[Caitlyn]

We're not talking about changing the existing world. We are talking about creating a new open world PVP map. Totally seperate from the PVE content.

When its seperated from the PVE content, then its not open world PvP.
All 4 grand companies (Uldah, Gridania, Limsa and Ishgard) have no reason to fight each other in the open world.

[Zojha]

When its seperated from the PVE content, then its not open world PvP.

Uhm...minor nitpick:

When it is separated from the open world, then it's not open world PvP. A dedicated PvP zone which you can just walk into anytime like the rest of the open world would be open world PvP as well, even if not a single node nor mob was to be seen.

[Slyqc]

When its seperated from the PVE content, then its not open world PvP.
All 4 grand companies (Uldah, Gridania, Limsa and Ishgard) have no reason to fight each other in the open world.

Then add a side quest that would get you swear an allegiance for a PvP faction that would add a reason to fight each others, it doesn't have to be the three grand company.

For anyone that played Shaiya in it's early days, I think that kind of PvP was the best, having a map that is not an instance but it's an open map made for PvP only.

[Guesswhat]

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Those problems are only problems if PvP is active all the time for all players. No one is asking for that. It would not be fun at all, unless on an anarchy map. No, you have a PvP flag you have to enable yourself, or a "challenge" system (just like request meld, you could request PvP). When PvP active you can only attack other PvP active players. You'd have to be DoW or DoM and not participate in any other content like FATEs, hunts, maps, etc.

It would still be hard to implement though.

Lore? There are some FATEs you fight some random dudes for some reason; drunk, practice, etc. Lore for open world PvP could be something similar.

[Nekotee]

To sum up...

Mairice
you're asking for a front (3 compagnie spawn base)
Transpose as a real area (like central coerthas)
With random boss spawn (like fate)

Hum yeah no
Gatherer are not happy about free pvp
Especially on rare short timed spot !