Live Letter XXX Discussion Thread

[Nezerius]

Actually thats a very good Idea!
We had that in FFVII Gold Saucer within the ARENA...
Still one thing to point out: It was clearable even with all negative effects!

RNG is choosing the penalty, if i remember right you always got one after a fight before the next fight. Still, there were some penalties who didnt hurt that much: no more item use allowed, no more magic allowed and so on... while others were hurting really hard -> 1/2 STR or 50% HP ... Ok to be fair: Players have chosen the penalty by stopping the wheel... experienced players could stop it on the penalty they wished for with stopping the wheel in the right time...

Yes please, such a System is much better!

This idea, while being neat, would make more sense if they ever end up adding the Battle Square in this game's Gold Saucer.
Considering they're already experimenting with solo content (Palace of the Dead), it wouldn't be a stretch to think that the Battle Square could become an option, if the Palace ends up as a successful feature.

The whole "spinning the wheel to choose your penalty" wouldn't even make much sense in the Aquapolis, that sounds more of an amusement park kind of thing. (exactly why it'd fit right in with the Gold Saucer)
It'd have to be reduced to a randomly booby trapped room, without the player having any choice in the matter. These traps would have to be equally serious, and actually have a good chance that the average group will fail at clearing the room (they did pick the wrong door, after all), and perhaps having it affect the reward in the 7th room. (something along the lines of "Triggering the trapped room has caused part of the 7th room to collapse, resulting in 10% of the riches to disappear")

[MomomiMomi]

It'd have to be reduced to a randomly booby trapped room, without the player having any choice in the matter. These traps would have to be equally serious, and actually have a good chance that the average group will fail at clearing the room (they did pick the wrong door, after all), and perhaps having it affect the reward in the 7th room. (something along the lines of "Triggering the trapped room has caused part of the 7th room to collapse, resulting in 10% of the riches to disappear")

So exactly what I said? Okay.

[Spawnie]

people whinge and complained every patch was a couple new linear dungeons boring blah blah, so SE listen and add somethin new different and exciting but those same people whinge because probably wont get to last room every time.. seriously SE are damned if they do damned if they dont.. theres just no pleasing people like you

[Reynhart]

This idea, while being neat, would make more sense if they ever end up adding the Battle Square in this game's Gold Saucer.

Isn't this concept part of the Palace of the Dead ?

[Yukiko]

people whinge and complained every patch was a couple new linear dungeons boring blah blah, so SE listen and add somethin new different and exciting but those same people whinge because probably wont get to last room every time.. seriously SE are damned if they do damned if they dont.. theres just no pleasing people like you

You dont play many dungeoncrawler games, do you?

[Nezerius]

So exactly what I said? Okay.

It was adding to your idea, yes. I didn't see the "reduced rewards for picking the wrong door" part in your post, though.
Reducing RNG like this should come at a price, in this case a lower reward.

Isn't this concept part of the Palace of the Dead ?

Hence the "Battle Square could become an option, if the Palace ends up as a successful feature." part of my post, because it'd build on another possibly/hopefully successful feature.

You dont play many dungeoncrawler games, do you?

Would you prefer the Aquapolis to be a repetitive dungeon that you'd be able to run countless of times for a small chance at something rare?

[Yukiko]

Would you prefer the Aquapolis to be a repetitive dungeon that you'd be able to run countless of times for a small chance at something rare?

You must play Wizardry!

[Felis]

SE should just do this:

100% chance to reach the 7th room regardless if choosed the right or wrong doors
every time the wrong door get choosed the chance to find something in the 7th room get reduced by 14%
This way players will still reach the 7th room and the penalty for choosing the wrong doors is still there

[Zojha]

SE should just do this:

100% chance to reach the 7th room regardless if choosed the right or wrong doors
every time the wrong door get choosed the chance to find something in the 7th room get reduced by 14%
This way players will still reach the 7th room and the penalty for choosing the wrong doors is still there

Or they could instead just make the encounters in the next room harder if you chose the "wrong" door. That way, you can substitute bad luck with skill, plus you can use it as justification for why you should get rewarded regardless.

I dunno, I personally loathe RNG in all its forms as game design.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Once this thing does come out, people will whine more about the rewards than the RNG.