Live Letter XXX Discussion Thread

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Are people seriously complaining that they might fail? Some of us don't want everything to be handed to us on a silver platter. >_>

I think it's sillier that the complaints are on the odds of making it to the end for content that's casual and not going to have something outstanding to shoot for.

[Malakym]

Good thing they're releasing Palace of the Dead

You keep repeating that as if somehow changing the door penalty will turn them both into the exact same thing. I'm not really sure why, they have enough differences already.

[Zigabar]

Are people seriously complaining that they might fail? Some of us don't want everything to be handed to us on a silver platter. >_>

I agree. I don't need everything on a silver platter, but mostly I don't want the market to crash.

[Nezerius]

You keep repeating that as if somehow changing the door penalty will turn them both into the exact same thing. I'm not really sure why, they have enough differences already.

One is designed like something you described in your post (Palace of the Dead), the other isn't (Aquapolis)

This is an MMO, it's impossible for every single feature to be catered to every single player. You showed dislike to the RNG aspect of the Aquapolis, while other players might like that aspect.

[Yukiko]

I was being pretentious, but yes, people really don't want to be bothered with puzzles. Look at how everyone wants to do everything quickly, have no caps on anything, get access to stuff instantly, and so forth. Puzzles would make people foam at the mouth. For those that would like to do the puzzles, having a puzzle in a dungeon that randomly spawns might not be the best thing and you'd have those that demand that you know the puzzles via youtube, so there's no joy in trying to figure out the puzzles blind when everyone else wants to rush for the gold.

No need to become sarcastic...
There is a reason why Zelda games survived that long and are still very popular!
I have never seen any Zelda game where you reached 7th floor "easily"

[Morningstar1337]

No need to become sarcastic...
There is a reason why Zelda games survived that long and are still very popular!
I have never seen any Zelda game where you reached 7th floor "easily"

Zelda = Single Player Game
Zelda =/= MMO

There is a huge difference.

[Felis]

Indeed, instead of RNG, I'd prefer some sort of puzzle that gets progressively more difficult to complete as you go down levels (with less time to complete each puzzle).

We get this. But as another dungeon content.

[Malakym]

I think it's sillier that the complaints are on the odds of making it to the end for content that's casual and not going to have something outstanding to shoot for.

Honestly for me, it's less about probability and more about the current way being just lazy. If the wrong door made it so that the next floor was hard enough that you had a high chance of losing, the only difference would be that there was at least some gameplay involved, even if the result of losing the fight was the same as just being shunted out to begin with.

I don't know how I feel about your insinuation that casual content can't also be compelling, but I admit I may be reading that wrong.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

No need to become sarcastic...
There is a reason why Zelda games survived that long and are still very popular!
I have never seen any Zelda game where you reached 7th floor "easily"

Um, what are you saying?

Honestly for me, it's less about probability and more about the current way being just lazy. If the wrong door made it so that the next floor was hard enough that you had a high chance of losing, the only difference would be that there was at least some gameplay involved, even if the result of losing the fight was the same as just being shunted out to begin with.

I don't know how I feel about your insinuation that casual content can't also be compelling, but I admit I may be reading that wrong.

What I meant was people are getting hung up over the RNG for progressing to the next room when the rewards inside, to me, isn't really anything worth complaining about with the RNG.

[Reynhart]

There is a reason why Zelda games survived that long and are still very popular!

No Zelda game manage to count your playtime in months

But puzzles would still be a good idea. But it should be random generated puzzle, to keep them somehow fresh.