Suggestion for 3.3 housing and alts

[Yuraq]

FC housing has everything that an individual house has, and more. Locking a free company out of housing so you can get your own personal house is just as selfish as locking out another player from personal housing by getting a 2nd house.

If the true goal is to end reselling, your idea doesn't put a dent in it.

Why would -that- matter if the individual is actually planning to use their medium / large house? (for RP / gardening / decorate it as they please?) people that want buy houses for the sake personal use are no less valid than FCs that want them for similar reasons.

Either way, you're derailing the topic. The topic / suggestion at hand is to prevent people who are simply looking to buy on their alt for the sole sake of re-selling for at least 300% the original price tag.

[StouterTaru]

Either way, you're derailing the topic. The topic / suggestion at hand is to prevent people who are simply looking to buy on their alt for the sole sake of re-selling for at least 300% the original price tag.

Two issues:

• Not everyone that flips a house buys with their alt
• Not everyone that buys with an alt is for flipping

Both your problem and solution are flawed.

[Rawrz]

Its not a direct fix. Much more would be needed to curb this issue. It is a start to allow people to actually use the housing they bought across all characters. Easy access to something you've paid for, which just happens to result in less housing needs.


A start to fixing Personal Housing:

• Allow alts to share one house. Increase tenant size per house (within reason), but decrease the number of houses 1 tenant can occupy at once.
• Players should be allowed only one House per Server.
• Players with more than one house currently will be able to keep their houses, unless evicted by reclamation system from inactivity. They will not, however, be able to share their houses with each alt, until only 1 house remains.

A start at fixing FC Housing:

• FCs can only transfer with a house in their possession if the previous GM stays in the FC for 1 week after the new GM has been appointed.
• The old GM cannot transfer GM status unless they have been the GM for 1 month or longer.
• The old GM cannot be banned or leave the FC until the week is up.
• If you would like to transfer the FC more quickly, you may demolish the plot for 80% of its value using the 3 day waiting period, then the set restrictions will not apply.

Additions that would affect both Personal and FC Housing:

• Give players back 80% of their money, 3 days after agreeing to return their house to the grand company the plot belongs to. (Day 0 sell house, Day 3 reconfirm the sale to help prevent scamming.)
  
  
• Housing demolished this way will be destroyed in 12 hours. A notice will be placed in a New NPC Sign next to the ward entrance of upcoming final demolitions. There will be an option to subscribe to housing demolitions via the NPC sign to be placed in your Timer section.(Housing that has been marked for demolition will show up here, starting at the 12 hour timer.)
  
  
• Make it clear upon log on for 3.3 and before each purchase thereafter that buying and selling plots is a bannable offense.'

So its more of a direction they need to move towards and not a single thing that needs done. Inflating prices like that would lead to no one buying housing/increased pricing everywhere else as people gravitate towards wanting one/increased flipping.

Harro again Stouter. Looks like they decreased prices.

[Yuraq]

Two issues:

• Not everyone that flips a house buys with their alt
• Not everyone that buys with an alt is for flipping

Both your problem and solution are flawed.

Your counter-agument is flawed, you completely missed the point.

- This thread points out the problem with people (WITH ALTS) who are planning to abuse the limited housing system in this game for the sole purpose of a dishonest profit and screwing over the rest of the community while they're at it.
- My solution applies to any individual or FC hoping to score a house of their own and give THEM a chance to have their own 'private' virtual plot.

I'm aware there may be people without houses wanting to buy one with sole intention of 'flipping it', those should / will be mass reported right away anyway.

Preventing alts to buy housing would lesses the stress on GMs and allow people who don't yet own a house, a chance to get one without grief.

[StouterTaru]

Harro again Stouter. Looks like they decreased prices.

I don't agree with all your ideas, but at least they address the actual issue, especially "Make it clear upon log on for 3.3 and before each purchase thereafter that buying and selling plots is a bannable offense."

Preventing alts to buy housing would lesses the stress on GMs and allow people who don't yet own a house, a chance to get one without grief.

What about people that actually want to use the house on their alts?

Why would -that- matter if the individual is actually planning to use their medium / large house? (for RP / gardening / decorate it as they please?) people that want buy houses for the sake personal use are no less valid than FCs that want them for similar reasons.

[Yuraq]

I don't agree with all your ideas, but at least they address the actual issue, especially "Make it clear upon log on for 3.3 and before each purchase thereafter that buying and selling plots is a bannable offense."


What about people that actually want to use the house on their alts?

Housing is very limited. Preventing alts from buying a second or more houses would give someone without a house an opportunity to own one.

[StouterTaru]

Housing is limited preventing alts from buying one give someone without a house an opportunity to own one.

Yeah, that's the same argument for FCs to get first crack at them.

[Yuraq]

Yeah, that's the same argument for FCs to get first crack at them.

Maybe in your flawed logic. Housing should be prioritized for any individual account that doesn't have a house and FC's evenly.

[StouterTaru]

people that want buy houses for the sake personal use are no less valid than FCs that want them for similar reasons.

Unless they are less valid in your view.

Limited open world personal housing should be scrapped, not given token fixes that don't fix the actual issues.

[Sardonia]

I wish they would have added the move feature with this patch as well. I currently have a small house that I managed to snag after the reclaimation started. However, I want a large house but will have to relinquish the small house I have now to gamble on trying to get a large house this patch. It does not make sense to add a move feature in later when all the houses are taken up already anyways.

What I may end up doing is giving the gil to an FC member who does not have the gil to purchase a house and have them buy the lot I relinquish it to hold on to it if I cannot snag a large house during the new patch. If I do get one, I will let the FC member keep it at no cost to them.

Again I just wish they would have added the move feature with the increase in housing so those that want to get a larger or different plot could do so.