Thread: Suggestion for 3.3 housing and alts

Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

One house per account/per server is how it should have been from the get go.

I'd agree with that only if it also included letting all alts on the account share the house equally. Currently, the only way for a player who legitimately plays multiple characters to give their characters house access is to get a house for each of them.

However, if instead of a permanent restriction, it were (as OP suggested) a week long restriction whenever new housing is added, that much I could accept even with the current character-specific rules on personal houses. (It wouldn't be ideal, but so long as availability remains limited no rule is going to make the system ideal.)

Originally Posted by Sardonia

I wish they would have added the move feature with this patch as well.

Has anyone heard when that's planned for release?

Originally Posted by Sardonia

I wish they would have added the move feature with this patch as well. I currently have a small house that I managed to snag after the reclaimation started. However, I want a large house but will have to relinquish the small house I have now to gamble on trying to get a large house this patch. It does not make sense to add a move feature in later when all the houses are taken up already anyways.

What I may end up doing is giving the gil to an FC member who does not have the gil to purchase a house and have them buy the lot I relinquish it to hold on to it if I cannot snag a large house during the new patch. If I do get one, I will let the FC member keep it at no cost to them.

Again I just wish they would have added the move feature with the increase in housing so those that want to get a larger or different plot could do so.

What you could do to get around this is privately give your current house to a trusted friend and they can simply give it back to you if you don't luck out and get a large. That won't get you into trouble since you're not trying to sell it to anyone via PF or whatnot. Even then, GMs only care if you're selling them for extremely inflated prices. Say you did get the large house and then offered the small up for exactly the same price as every other house. I doubt you'd have any issues.

Originally Posted by Jpec07

The true solution is to ensure that there is always ample supply, which means building the housing system in a scalable fashion. It would not be even slightly difficult to configure, and could be easily accomplished if they were to migrate their housing servers to a cloud-based host (AWS, Azure, etc.).

I had always assumed that 'Resource Limitations' was analogous to 'Budget'. The issue isn't the technology or the development team's competence, but prioritizing development efforts based on the budget they are given.

What do you consider "own a house on their account"? Is an FC house a "house on their account"? Are people who own an FC house not allowed a personal house? If a person has a personal house, can they not buy one for their FC?

As long as people can buy an FC house even if they have a personal, people can buy up to 8 extra houses.

Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

What do you consider "own a house on their account"? Is an FC house a "house on their account"? Are people who own an FC house not allowed a personal house? If a person has a personal house, can they not buy one for their FC?

As long as people can buy an FC house even if they have a personal, people can buy up to 8 extra houses.

A way to look at it is to compare someone who is in an FC that owns a house or is part of an FC that owns a house, to someone who is either in or not in an FC that does not own a house. There are people who do not have access to housing at all, that wish to take up the opportunity in patch 3.3.
They should be allowed to do so without having to compete with those that already have access to a house. If people weren't flipping houses it might be a different story. If SE put a stop to people flipping houses it might be a different story.

Originally Posted by ToffeeCoffee

A way to look at it is to compare someone who is in an FC that owns a house or is part of an FC that owns a house, to someone who is either in or not in an FC that does not own a house. There are people who do not have access to housing at all, that wish to take up the opportunity in patch 3.3.
They should be allowed to do so without having to compete with those that already have access to a house. If people weren't flipping houses it might be a different story. If SE put a stop to people flipping houses it might be a different story.

If we're going with that, then I believe we should only allow FC houses as that would increase the amount of people who get access to housing the most.

Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

As long as people can buy an FC house even if they have a personal, people can buy up to 8 extra houses.

Only provided they first have an opportunity to buy seven Free Companies, or can convince tons of extra people to join each of their alts' FCs and level them up.

It's possible to level a one-person FC all the way up to rank 6, where housing is unlocked, but only with a character you're playing a lot. It isn't going to happen if you make separate one-person FCs for each of your lesser-played alts. Most of those alts aren't likely to have enough activity by themselves to rank up an FC (well, maybe after several years of occasional activity, but not in any sort of reasonable timeframe).

It's not like you create a one-person FC and can then just go buy a house with it. Rank 6 takes quite a while with just one person's activity to boost it with. And with only 1/8 of one person's activity, it'd take longer than most people will play an MMO.

Originally Posted by Niwashi

It's possible to level a one-person FC all the way up to rank 6, where housing is unlocked, but only with a character you're playing a lot.

Apparently you also "only" need to earn 86,000 free company points to take it from level 1 to 6. I say only in quotes because it's still not exactly a walk in the park, but someone in one of my linkshells is currently levelling a FC up, solo, for this purpose and in just over a week he's got it from 1 to rank 5. I'm not sure what methods he's using, but I suspect he'll have 6 before the weekend, so that's less than 2 weeks.

I suspect what a lot of multiple FC people are doing though is putting their main character in a new FC, just playing the game and when the FC hits 6, transfer ownership to an alt (which only needs to be a level 1 new character) and then create a new FC and start over.

Originally Posted by Niwashi

or can convince tons of extra people to join each of their alts' FCs

One person with two accounts can do this quite easily (I think there's probably quite a few of us with multiple accounts for various reasons?). You just create the FC on one, and create a few alts on the other to join it. They don't have to stay in the FC, just sign it so it gets created.