Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS

[HaroldSaxon]

Ok, so I see your point and I apologize for stating that the Midan necklace was better than the crafted necklace as a fact. It is my opinion that its better. Although, I do state several times that the stat weights are arbitrary and I have I my nose to the ground and will update as soon as numbers can be confirmed and validated. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I never care about being right or wrong. I didn't make this guide because I believe I'm the best at this. I did it to help the community and there wasn't really a guide that had all the information in one spot. And the others that have created guides are gone from the game. Plus, most guides really only spoke of endgame rotations, while negating the basics of the class and the game in general. I don't plan on going anywhere for a very long time, so I know I'll be around to continue managing the guide into the future.

With that being said, the only thing I'll say to counter this statement is, if that were the case, wouldn't all the stat weights be higher? Toward the end of the expansion, all 3 secondaries hovered around 0.2 - 0.3. Yes, SS was higher than Det and Crit, but not by that much. They were all higher than 0.2. Now I know SS has changed a bit with our Enochian and AF timers being a big factor, and also that SS now affects DoTs, but Crit was also adjusted to now include damage done as well as rate. If SS was really as high as 0.413 (which it might be), I would expect Det and Crit to be in the high 0.2s, with Crit probably being in the 0.3s. Again, I'm not stating this as fact. But with my experience with the game and the class, I feel 0.413 is too high. Dervy also agrees that number is way too high. Truthfully, I've been waiting for him to level BLM and do the stat weights, because we all know he knows what he's doing.

Which is great because the game does lack guides, but when it comes to actual statistics and math, I don't like seeing people get misled - either unintentionally or intentionally.

Yes, some stat weights will be higher, although i'm probably not the right person to ask - Crit will be worth more due to the changes to crit. Det for BLM won't have as much of a gain, but with higher gear values and a higher potency rotation i'd imagine it would be worth more. I could be completely off here.

In 2.x, Spellspeed was actually considerably higher point for point than the other stats when you had BiS - to the point where a lot of the BiS pieces were crafted.

My gut says that 0.413 is a bit too high, but I don't have any math to disprove that. If I was to make a completely baseless guess, i'd imagine at BiS levels, it would be Det at 0.15-0.2, Crit at 0.25-0.3 and Spellspeed at 0.35 to 0.4.

.413 is 1.4 times the next proposed highest secondary on any other job (.295 on BRD's Critical), which is why it simply doesn't pass the smell test... at least when it comes to dummy DPS. Speaking of which, I need a BLM damage formula gimme gimme

And I've not disagreed or said that 0.413 is accurate or not accurate. We don't have the data to say that right now.

[SunnyHirose]

And I've not disagreed or said that 0.413 is accurate or not accurate. We don't have the data to say that right now.

I consider other jobs to be data. They really don't stray too far from each other. ARR BLM was kind of an exception, but now there's oGCD stoppage and stuff....

All in all, I can't actually weight BLM without a BLM damage formula for INT/DET. That's the big missing piece over on my end. The rotation and all its gotchas is a relatively minor detail in comparison (the choices you have are limited anyway; that narrows things down). For example, when I corrected a fairly major problem with melee SS weights about a year ago, the net result was only something like ~10% reduction to the weight. Yes, that counts as a major problem to me; to the gearsets you can actually construct, it is probably not.

[HaroldSaxon]

I consider other jobs to be data. They really don't stray too far from each other. ARR BLM was kind of an exception, but now there's oGCD stoppage and stuff....

All in all, I can't actually weight BLM without a BLM damage formula for INT/DET. That's the big missing piece over on my end. The rotation and all its gotchas is a relatively minor detail in comparison (the choices you have are limited anyway; that narrows things down). For example, when I corrected a fairly major problem with melee SS weights about a year ago, the net result was only something like ~10% reduction to the weight. Yes, that counts as a major problem to me; to the gearsets you can actually construct, it is probably not.

Funnily enough, this appeared on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...n_methodology/

I've not had chance to go through it and evaluate it though. Maybe it will be useful

[SunnyHirose]

Funnily enough, this appeared on Reddit:

https://np.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...n_methodology/

I've not had chance to go through it and evaluate it though. Maybe it will be useful

I did end up spending a lot of my posting-time for the past couple days in responses to that thread, of course in minutes I get a downvote and someone telling me that I'm posting "gibberish" ヽ( ﾟヮ・)ノ

(please do not up/downvote based off your reading this post, that's against site rules; just, uh, wanted to vent and if you want more pontification on SS weighting it's there now....)