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    ZephyrMenodora's Avatar
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    I don't do this because this is not my playstyle as a healer. I'm a very risk adverse person so will keep all dps full and typically stoneskinned and the tank above 70% if possible. If the tank is particularly competent, I will let them go to 50% but not lower.

    This may sound bad to some people, but I prefer to be sure no one dies than to add my own dps and then have to rez someone. If a group wants me to dps more, then the following should happen:

    1. DPS should move out of AEs or scripted events that cause massive damage. If the DPS is good at this, I can dps more and worry about them less.
    2. The tanks should be using defensive cooldowns on pulls. A lot of times they don't use any at all until bosses. Therefore their hp plummets and I can't safely go into Cleric until there are only 1 or 2 mobs left to kill.
    3. The tank should pull only as much as they are geared for. Undergeared tanks pulling everything possible will result in my needing to heal 100% of the time and sometimes Benediction to avoid their death.
    4. Some tanks run off before all of the mobs are killed, chaining pulls and leaving no chance to get out of combat. If this happens I can't DPS because Shroud of Saints by itself isn't enough to keep my MP high if I never leave combat.

    So, how much I can DPS does often depend on the competency of those around me. Some groups are great and I can get quite a bit of DPS out. Others...not so much.

    PS: I also have only been back in game for 1 month and just got Heavensward, so I don't know all the instances like the back of my hand. I am not 100% sure when large damage will come, so I choose to be prepared by keeping HPs high. I don't even know what a tankbuster is - do these happen outside of raids? If they do I haven't seen much of a problem because I typically keep HP on the higher end.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 04-22-2016 at 08:25 AM.

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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    ...how much I can DPS does often depend on the competency of those around me. Some groups are great and I can get quite a bit of DPS out...
    ^This.

    Why are SCH talking about remaining in cleric so much? As if it's their priority? Is it different in 8-man content? I definitely dance a lot less on SCH, due to fairy. But I see her as a partner. She takes care of most of the healing. I assist her with adlo and succor, and cleric needs to be off. They also allow you to DPS more since it will take longer for your members to reach your threshold.

    For me, it's getting to the point where I dislike if anyone other than the tank takes a hit w/o a shield up. I know I can't always have them up, but when it comes time for filler, my priority is succor/ruin/ruin2, not the other way around. I'll always DPS as much as I can, which is a lot lol. But me and my fairies priorities are mitigating and fixing dmg and I LOVE to see those little green icons.
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    Thunda_Cat_SMASH's Avatar
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Why are SCH talking about remaining in cleric so much.
    Because that is the priority. This is 2016, scholars aren't healers, they're just DPS that happen to have a healer pet. DPS takes priority over everything, including healing.
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    Gimorian401's Avatar
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    Skye Vrcyee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Because that is the priority. This is 2016, scholars aren't healers, they're just DPS that happen to have a healer pet. DPS takes priority over everything, including healing.
    This is not consistent. I work with a lot of SCH. Many use Selene so they are the healer. The ones that use Eos I see DPSing a bit more. Though I have seen a few SCH that seem to want to be SMN more than SCH. Those few, I agree with the idea of if they want to DPS go SMN but I know that a number don't want to wait in the que
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    Last edited by Gimorian401; 04-22-2016 at 07:22 PM.

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    Player Kaurie's Avatar
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Why are SCH talking about remaining in cleric so much? As if it's their priority? Is it different in 8-man content? I definitely dance a lot less on SCH, due to fairy. But I see her as a partner. She takes care of most of the healing. I assist her with adlo and succor, and cleric needs to be off. They also allow you to DPS more since it will take longer for your members to reach your threshold.
    Well, first, Eos/Selene can 100% solo heal expert dungeons atm. So she is a partner, but why not just let her do her thing?

    Second, why are SCH talking about remaining in cleric so much? Because, dungeons in FFXIV have become a chore. They're designed to be easy, quick, boring and provide high rewards. Thus, the desire is to do them as quickly as possible - so you can get on to things you actually want to be spending your time doing. The longer one can stay in cleric stance, the faster the run.
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