Pros and Cons of each Healer Role

[HPDelron]

It's been tried and tested before that stat reduction in percentages translates into a percentage less damage dealt, assuming enemies use the same formula like the players. Ergo: -15% str, dex, int and mnd reduces physical and magical (healing) by roughly 15%. Also, disable can't be considered "flat mitigation" if Virus isn't. It reduces action potency by 10%. Then there's the thing that CU renders you immobile/unable to perform actions for it's uptime where sacred soil does not. But let's not go there.

What we can say is that disable and virus play nice with each other. In that using Virus locks you out of additional Vriuses, but not disable. Meaning that your maximum uptime for mitigation debuffs is greater when mixing the two, or you can stack them for more peak mitigation. This is probably the more relevant factor to consider for composition than which of the two is stronger.

It could be argued this creates a "Pro" for AST in that their abilities compliment and compound with those of a SCH better than do WHMs or another SCH. If we want to be really silly and run with edge case mitigation you can have Bole + Virus + Disable + Sacred Soil + CU + Galvanize + Stone Skin out of an AST/SCH combo and you can't really get anything else comparable out of any other two healer setup.

[Kaurie]

What we can say is that disable and virus play nice with each other. In that using Virus locks you out of additional Vriuses, but not disable. Meaning that your maximum uptime for mitigation debuffs is greater when mixing the two, or you can stack them for more peak mitigation. This is probably the more relevant factor to consider for composition than which of the two is stronger.

Definitely. In my static we run Diurnal AST + SCH(me) and we have a SMN. That means we can have 2 superviruses with a disable in between.

If we want to be really silly and run with edge case mitigation you can have Bole + Virus + Disable + Sacred Soil + CU + Galvanize + Stone Skin out of an AST/SCH combo and you can't really get anything else comparable out of any other two healer setup.

What is kind of sad is that Fey Illum + Defiance + Adlo/crit + Deploy would mitigate more than bole/virus/disable/sacred soil/cu/succor/stone skin :\

[HPDelron]

Definitely. In my static we run Diurnal AST + SCH(me) and we have a SMN. That means we can have 2 superviruses with a disable in between.

What is kind of sad is that Fey Illum + Defiance + Adlo/crit + Deploy would mitigate more than bole/virus/disable/sacred soil/cu/succor/stone skin :\

Except, those aren't mutually exclusive. It's only really meaningful to talk about which does more when you have to choose between the two things. Fey Illum + Defiance + Aldo Crit is all to produce a big Galvanize effect. Which as we see slots comfortably into the overall picture and since Galvanize stays up anything that reduces the damage going into the shields leaves more of that big, beefy safety barrier for later.

I know we're already off into stupid theoretical maximums with no real application but heck, why not throw in mantra & dissipation while we're at it for good measure?

[Kaurie]

Except, those aren't mutually exclusive. It's only really meaningful to talk about which does more when you have to choose between the two things. Fey Illum + Defiance + Aldo Crit is all to produce a big Galvanize effect. Which as we see slots comfortably into the overall picture and since Galvanize stays up anything that reduces the damage going into the shields leaves more of that big, beefy safety barrier for later.

I know we're already off into stupid theoretical maximums with no real application but heck, why not throw in mantra & dissipation while we're at it for good measure?

I didn't mean it as a mutually exclusive, or a way of pointing out how those other skills are not good (they're all useful and we use them all). I more meant that Adlo + Deploy is OP and I am surprised they allow people to throw 13k+ shields on an entire group.

Personally, I wouldn't use Dissipation for an adlo deploy - I only use Dissipation under 2 situations 1. no healing will be required for a bit and 2. I need to push DPS. We could definitely add more healing buffs, but that just moves away from the point I was making :P