Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
FF11 endgame was 18-man boss fights and had slightly less subscribers than ff14 has..... so not sure why organizing 8 ppl is unreasonable.
The significant difference is that FFXI endgame wasn't really 18-man boss fights. You could take up to 18 people, but you could easily beat almost everything with significantly fewer people.

Imagine Savage fights being tuned exactly as they are now, but being able to take anywhere between 8 and 20 people, and that's what FFXI endgame was like.