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  1. #111
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    KrenianKandos's Avatar
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    Krenian Kandos
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    If Dark Knight had a significant advantage over the other tanks I wouldn't be here complaining. However right now..
    - Manage your Mana.
    - Manage your Dark Arts.
    - Manage your Stances.
    - Also, your a tank, so all the management and stress that comes with that as well.
    Manage your Mana and Dark Arts is pretty much the same. You got the mana for it? use Dark Arts. No? Don't use it. They're related together. That's a single situation.
    Manage your stance? Seriously, if you find managing your stance to be 'hard', just stay in Grit and never lose threat and let the rest of the DPS handle it. Stance Dancing as DRK is ridiculously easy: Drop Grit after two rounds of Grit rotations, and go to town. Activate Grit if you have a situation of Multiple Adds/Big damage incoming to reduce said damage. It's an extra cooldown after the first 10 seconds and dismissal of the class. You're overreaching with this one.
    Manage your tank skills: That's every tank so that's really nothing big.

    So really, you don't like managing your Mana. Surprising that you like playing Warrior because they have to sometimes manage their TP. Paladins are really the only class where Mana management doesn't necessarily matter because Sheltron does a lot of mana regen for them and so does going Riot Blade + Goring Blade as your rotation.

    Yes, Dark Knight has the hardest management of resources to deal with: Mana. But effective and excellent Dark Knights enjoy the challenge of keeping that bar up. I have an infinite amount of resources if I know how to play it properly. Neither two tanks have that ability and are subject to either wasting a rotation to get said resource back or dependent on other classes/no longer using rotations until they have enough management to do something.

    I'm still failing to see the problem. Maybe you just are really bad at playing Dark Knight. Period. *shrug*
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  2. #112
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    FinalWolf's Avatar
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    Rex Inferorum
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Future ability I would like to see is some form of meter or something similar for DRK.

    So when it reaches full you can activate a devil trigger like trance (your dark side taking over)
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  3. #113
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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    i go to tell you a little secret nektulos, a little one, DRK like the other clases are built for manage end game, and you know what? GREAT NEWS dark knight is one of the tanks how kill brute justice in AS8 with the top raiders, now you say some japanese threads complaing about DRK, give the link if you don't mind, because i don't see it.

    a yes i forgeth, ejem, yes dark knight need a little more skill compared to the other 2 tanks but whe have other clases more hard to play compared with dark knigth, in fact drk is pretty easy, use all you ogc and keep darkside up all the time the rest of the time is spam dark arts in souleater and leave 3-4k of mp if you need drop or put grit on.

    and dark mind is so powerfull and short cd so have some mechanic in the skill never was a problem for mitigate, more when the ******* dark arts are off globlal countdown¡¡¡... ejem sorry, like i say is spam dark arts, when you mp go 3-4k then spam delirium combo for recover and end of the story, no babysitter for anyone but i know you only have rage and hate for the drk or something because you are the only one in the forum how complaing about everithing of the drk, and whe are a lot of ppl how say why you are wrong in all you post and you still here posting, be water my friend devs know what are they doing in the past when desing the drk and now.
    And Warrior is so much funner to do that because it has no gimmicks and you still manage your TP instead of Mana. However, it is much more flushed out and just a more well designed class overall. It has fun moves and does not require many stupid things like mentioned above. SAME for other classes.

    Also.. what?

    I will respect you if english is your second language. However I don't understand much of any of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by KrenianKandos View Post
    Manage your Mana and Dark Arts is pretty much the same. You got the mana for it? use Dark Arts. No? Don't use it. They're related together. That's a single situation.
    Manage your stance? Seriously, if you find managing your stance to be 'hard', just stay in Grit and never lose threat and let the rest of the DPS handle it. Stance Dancing as DRK is ridiculously easy: Drop Grit after two rounds of Grit rotations, and go to town. Activate Grit if you have a situation of Multiple Adds/Big damage incoming to reduce said damage. It's an extra cooldown after the first 10 seconds and dismissal of the class. You're overreaching with this one.
    Manage your tank skills: That's every tank so that's really nothing big.

    So really, you don't like managing your Mana. Surprising that you like playing Warrior because they have to sometimes manage their TP. Paladins are really the only class where Mana management doesn't necessarily matter because Sheltron does a lot of mana regen for them and so does going Riot Blade + Goring Blade as your rotation.

    Yes, Dark Knight has the hardest management of resources to deal with: Mana. But effective and excellent Dark Knights enjoy the challenge of keeping that bar up. I have an infinite amount of resources if I know how to play it properly. Neither two tanks have that ability and are subject to either wasting a rotation to get said resource back or dependent on other classes/no longer using rotations until they have enough management to do something.

    I'm still failing to see the problem. Maybe you just are really bad at playing Dark Knight. Period. *shrug*
    Mana isn't the problem.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 04-16-2016 at 04:07 PM.

  4. #114
    Player
    Tanathya's Avatar
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    Selena Schwarz
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    Ragnarok
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    And Warrior is so much funner to do that because it has no gimmicks and you still manage your TP instead of Mana. However, it is much more flushed out and just a more well designed class overall. It has fun moves and does not require many stupid things like mentioned above. SAME for other classes.
    Then stick with WAR and stop complaining about other jobs? Food for thought.
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  5. #115
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    Yuni Captain
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    Brynhildr
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    funner

    However, it is much more flushed out and just a more well designed class overall.

    I will respect you if english is your second language. However I don't understand much of any of it.

    Mana isn't the problem.
    1st line with 3rd are savage together. I hope "funner" is just a spelling mistake. Before you make such notes about secondary english language, check your post for possible mistakes. Some kind of forum etiquette.

    DRK is a well-designed class, the fact you don't like/can't play it, doesn't mean, it's broken or poorly-designed.
    Do not compare DRK to WAR becuase WAR is easy. Just easy. i am writing that 3rd time here. WAR is easy.
    Newbie can play WAR like a pro after 1 full day of striking dummy.

    If mana is not your problem, what's your problem? DRKs arms are not axes? DRKs don't have berzerk? DRK can spam 400 potency attacks which make you feel like WAR is not be OP enough?
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    Last edited by Yuni_Queen; 04-16-2016 at 06:55 PM. Reason: plural form for 'DRK' edit

  6. #116
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    Martin_Arcainess's Avatar
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    Martin Arcainess
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    I assume your responses are in red but I just want to clarify. The Scourge DoT does magical damage and the Salted Earth DoT does physical damage. Yeah I don't get it.
    bit late I know but took a break from XIV

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  7. #117
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    And Warrior is so much funner to do that because it has no gimmicks and you still manage your TP instead of Mana. However, it is much more flushed out and just a more well designed class overall. It has fun moves and does not require many stupid things like mentioned above. SAME for other classes.
    yeah but nektulo your tastes are not law, you don't like how DRK works, pretty good, you love a more simple gameplay like the warrior, fine all play the class they want and like, but don't speak for every player how is playing DRK and have a lot or fun with the job, respect that and don't try to change our job with the excuse war is more fun because is not true for us.
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    Last edited by shao32; 04-16-2016 at 10:15 PM.

  8. #118
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_Arcainess View Post
    bit late I know but took a break from XIV

    I know right.
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  9. #119
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    Zari's Avatar
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    Zari Lutus
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    How many times do I need to say you don't need to like every job in the game.
    "But I want to be an 'edgy' greatsword wielder"
    Well then too bad! Sorry you don't like the gameplay of it but other people do and Square isn't gonna change it to satisfy some whiny kid that wants to enjoy every single job his way.
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  10. #120
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    I know we have a stun but I'm kinda sad we can't inflict the terror status effect.
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