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  1. #11
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    I'm going to admit that I don't know what I want DRK to be, I know there are a lot of things about it that feel wrong, weird or out of place, but I can't think how I'd do it better. But everything in the OP makes me instinctively scream no.

    Blood weapon, I think it's fine being only mp, but it does feel weird being restricted in grit. I get their thinking behind it but I wish it had been done differently, maybe even just making it a full time stance that swaps with grit kind of like shield oath and sword oath. Slightly reduce the effect to make up for the increased up time.

    Sole survivor, not really necessary to change it to 15% hp especially when some adds can die from full health in like 2 seconds and not used on bosses just seems silly.

    Everything you say remove dark arts from, no. Dark arts is an amazing mechanic on DRK and if anything I wish it was used more and introduced earlier.

    I will agree abyssal drain should drain basely cause drain is in the name, it feels weird for it not to. The same with souleater. They should both have a weaker potency and drain and dark arts should enhance it.

    Delerium reducing MND, there is basically one mob in the game so far that actually heals itself this would be stupidly niche and not fit drk's magical tank motif.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 03-30-2016 at 08:13 AM.

  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    I'm going to admit that I don't know what I want DRK to be, I know there are a lot of things about it that feel wrong, weird or out of place, but I can't think how I'd do it better. But everything in the OP makes me instinctively scream no.

    Blood weapon, I think it's fine being only mp, but it does feel weird being restricted in grit. I get their thinking behind it but I wish it had been done differently, maybe even just making it a full time stance that swaps with grit kind of like shield oath and sword oath. Slightly reduce the effect to make up for the increased up time.

    Sole survivor, not really necessary to change it to 15% hp especially when some adds can die from full health in like 2 seconds and not used on bosses just seems silly.

    Everything you say remove dark arts from, no. Dark arts is an amazing mechanic on DRK and if anything I wish it was used more and introduced earlier.

    I will agree abyssal drain should drain basely cause drain is in the name, it feels weird for it not to. The same with souleater. They should both have a weaker potency and drain and dark arts should enhance it.

    Delerium reducing MND, there is basically one mob in the game so far that actually heals itself this would be stupidly niche and not fit drk's magical tank motif.
    Why would you want to use it on a boss. So when it dies and you collect your loot your healed for 20% max life/power? You regenerate out of combat so fast. Also, under 15% is a very good mechanic because that is how Mercy Stroke is. It does nothing if they are alive.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Why would you want to use it on a boss. So when it dies and you collect your loot your healed for 20% max life/power? You regenerate out of combat so fast. Also, under 15% is a very good mechanic because that is how Mercy Stroke is. It does nothing if they are alive.
    Because what do you define as a boss? How would the game know? How would it restrict it? Is a dungeon mini boss a boss? Yes I'd want to use it on one of those as there's trash right after and I might be tapped out and it would get me to the next pull faster. Is a hunt a boss? Yes I want to use it on one of those as I might go right back into farming mobs around it after. Is zombie dragon in CT a boss? He dies 3 times yes I'd want to use it on him to get my mp back up. It's a stupid restriction. You just need to learn to use it properly and not expect the game to do it for you. The 15% on mercy stroke is a restriction not a benefit, it's there because it does damage, if it was unrestricted you could open with it and spam it throughout the fight for an extra 200 potency attack.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 03-30-2016 at 08:34 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

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    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    Because what do you define as a boss? How would the game know? How would it restrict it? Is a dungeon mini boss a boss? Yes I'd want to use it on one of those as there's trash right after and I might be tapped out and it would get me to the next pull faster. Is a hunt a boss? Yes I want to use it on one of those as I might go right back into farming mobs around it after. Is zombie dragon in CT a boss? He dies 3 times yes I'd want to use it on him to get my mp back up. It's a stupid restriction. You just need to learn to use it properly and not expect the game to do it for you. The 15% on mercy stroke is a restriction not a benefit, it's there because it does damage, if it was unrestricted you could open with it and spam it throughout the fight for an extra 200 potency attack.
    Bosses in this game, are usually surrounded by an area or arena. They also usually drop a chest afterwards. Usually are found in Dungeons and Raids. That fight "the dragon" also has a ton of adds you can use it on. Don't be a baby, this is a really good change and actually a good idea.
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    I've always kind of wanted Living Dead to act as a bomb that dealt damage equal to your max hp if you died from Walking Dead. I'm sure someone would form a hilarious strat involving using a drk as a suicide bomb.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Bosses in this game, are usually surrounded by an area or arena. They also usually drop a chest afterwards. Usually are found in Dungeons and Raids. That fight "the dragon" also has a ton of adds you can use it on. Don't be a baby, this is a really good change and actually a good idea.
    It's not a good change its stupid and unnecessary, clearly you have accidentally used it on a boss when you didn't need to and instead of thinking "maybe I should be more careful with when I use this" you've gone "duuuh, game is broke!"

    Anyway you already have a sole survivor sucks thread where everyone widely disagrees with you so I'm not gonna turn this into another one.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 03-30-2016 at 09:04 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    I've always kind of wanted Living Dead to act as a bomb that dealt damage equal to your max hp if you died from Walking Dead. I'm sure someone would form a hilarious strat involving using a drk as a suicide bomb.
    It's funny. In Bravely Default if the DRK dies they blow up and deal big damage to all enemies.

    Aptly named "See you in Hell". Passive trait.
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  8. #18
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    Delirium damaging the target's Mind stat as an addition to what it does now would be enough to make DRK desirable in Feast pvp. But I suppose they don't really want to encourage players to use healer focus strat.
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  9. #19
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    Living Dead is the only "uber cooldown" that doesn't do anything if it doesn't work in the game.
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    Go away, Nek.
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