Same GC Ifrit killers gets better reward

[Delsus]

Reroll?

Man, people are taking this WAY too seriously...

Well if you cant get anything decent because you chose the wrong company, then you have no choice, quit or just do nothing, the trend could also continue in other patches to make it worse.

[Mindx3]

As much as i disagree with this idea, I am curious to see how it plays out. Everyone seems to think everyone will flock to one GC, which may happen, but is uldah even going to be as important with instant travel to citys? I for one am going to stick with Twin Adders, and if i have to group up with other adders to get the best loot....so be it.

As for linkshells this move kind of sucks, but i could see same GC LS popping up in the near future.....

Although i think this move may be rough for low pop servers :\

[Cycloptichorn]

Well if you cant get anything decent because you chose the wrong company, then you have no choice, quit or just do nothing, the trend could also continue in other patches to make it worse.

This is a combination of Appealing to Extremes and a Slippery Slope argument. Both are fallacies.

You have no data that shows that you 'can't get anything decent' because of this. But that doesn't stop you from projecting even further harm from potential patches later on. There's no logical validity to such an argument.

[Delsus]

This is a combination of Appealing to Extremes and a Slippery Slope argument. Both are fallacies.

You have no data that shows that you 'can't get anything decent' because of this. But that doesn't stop you from projecting even further harm from potential patches later on. There's no logical validity to such an argument.

Its called the worst case scenario, which means looking at the worst possible outcome of somthing, in this case the worst case scenario of choosing a GC entirely on speculation is not being able to do somthing and the only solution is quit, reroll or not do anything. While it may be the least possible outcome it is a possibility which is why I would like to know, I would not care if I could change company but being locked into your initial choice makes us need official confirmation.

Thinking of the worst case scenario makes you not do anything rash, you should try it sometime.

[Cycloptichorn]

Its called the worst case scenario, which means looking at the worst possible outcome of somthing, in this case the worst case scenario of choosing a GC entirely on speculation is not being able to do somthing and the only solution is quit, reroll or not do anything. While it may be the least possible outcome it is a possibility which is why I would like to know, I would not care if I could change company but being locked into your initial choice makes us need official confirmation.

Thinking of the worst case scenario makes you not do anything rash, you should try it sometime.

Oh, I certainly do. Risk Aversion is part of my career. But you should label such things 'worse case scenario' instead of positing them as 'likely scenario.' And re-rolling is a little extreme, I mean, c'mon.

Do people here really think the Devs would make it so that only certain groups could get the most desired drops? Do you think they are stupid? And if they were dumb enough to make that mistake, you don't think they would patch it after it was revealed - in-game, not through bitching in forums - that this is a real issue? Have some faith here, people!

[Duuude007]

Do people here really think the Devs would make it so that only certain groups could get the most desired drops?

We don't know. Thats why we are asking for clarity. Just like in materia crafting, a specific combination of materia and catalyst yields the best reward; a comparable requirement may be in place for party GC's being represented, to yield the best reward.

If it doesn't, why would they even bring the topic up?

[Cycloptichorn]

We don't know. Thats why we are asking for clarity. Just like in materia crafting, a specific combination of materia and catalyst yields the best reward; a comparable requirement may be in place for party GC's being represented, to yield the best reward.

If it doesn't, why would they even bring the topic up?

It's FAR more likely that the 'bonuses' are additional gil and company marks, than to think that certain drops would only be available to groups composed of members of the same company.

I'm not sure materia crafting is a good analogy, as anyone who can do any of the crafting, could make any item - as long as they have the parts. It's not an exclusive thing. I highly doubt SE would make it so that only, say, a group all from the same GC would be able to get the Ifrit weapons that everyone (except for me) seems to hate so much... makes no logical sense.

[Delsus]

Oh, I certainly do. Risk Aversion is part of my career. But you should label such things 'worse case scenario' instead of positing them as 'likely scenario.' And re-rolling is a little extreme, I mean, c'mon.

Do people here really think the Devs would make it so that only certain groups could get the most desired drops? Do you think they are stupid? And if they were dumb enough to make that mistake, you don't think they would patch it after it was revealed - in-game, not through bitching in forums - that this is a real issue? Have some faith here, people!

Remember the ARC GLA CON only for darkhold, yeah they wouldnt make it so certain groups can get the most desired drops, also remember in FFXI most jobs were useless in salvage because of the initial restrictions, and people wanted to get the items to unlock abilities, sub jobs, weapons etc which locked alot of people out of salvage gear and mythics, which were desirable.

They have done it before and surely they will do it again, which is why we want a dev response on what the terminology actually means.

SE are probably expecting everyone to join differant companies which is why they have put this in, but they didnt expect everyone to congrigate in uldah, they didnt expect leve link then abandon the leve, there is alot they dont expect which can get exploited. People still ask for ARC GLA CON for darkhold, which largely can lock out entire groups of people for that, it took me about 3 weeks to get a decent darkhold run on my LNC, and I will not level somthing just because the community think it is the only way to do somthing.

So yes they will make it so only certain groups can get desirable drops, show me some evidence that shows me otherwise.